david3558 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 As the title states, I just got a very nice condition EG1000 from a friend's SR-16 for 2 bottles of green gas. I need to know if the motor will fit in an ICS handgrip without modification, and if it is hard to "Adjust" it, once it is securely inside. Also, on the bottom of the motor, my friend said he lost a very small metal "disk", what is it and what does it do? Link to post Share on other sites
NamantH Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Well the metal disc is for the depth adjustment. if you have one in your ics now it should not be an issue. I do not see why the motor wouldnt fit... the ics is mauri compatible (except for hte split box) as far as i know Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 But can an extra "depth adjustment" disc be bought? And where? Thanks for the help, also how hard is it to adjust the depth? Where can I get a new gear (the one that sits on the tip of the motor)? And what lube do I use? Anyone else's opinion? +1 for anyone who replies to all of above Link to post Share on other sites
Buttons Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 But can an extra "depth adjustment" disc be bought? And where? Thanks for the help, also how hard is it to adjust the depth? Where can I get a new gear (the one that sits on the tip of the motor)? And what lube do I use? Anyone else's opinion? -Yes. From any of the Hong kong stores or from Jungle Toys. You can get just the SRC one if you wish. It's just a chunk of aluminum. -Easy as falling off a cat. -Pinion gear? Same place as the first question. But might want a tougher one. Get the Guarder. Hard part wold be getting the tool for it. It's quite expensive. -It should work fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 But can an extra "depth adjustment" disc be bought? And where? Had a look around and I couldn't find anywhere that sells the motor shim anywhere. I can't believe they can't be bought though. Even if you had to make one it wouldn't be that hard. It's just like a washer with no hole through the middle. Thanks for the help, also how hard is it to adjust the depth? Not that hard. there's no guaranteed way of doing it. I'd suggest screwing the allen key in until it begins to go tight then back it off a turn or 2. Then shoot the gun while tightening the screw. If the ROF slows as you tighten the screw then it's too tight and you should loosen it off. If the ROF doesn't drop then tighten the screw until the ROF does drop and then stop, and back it off a quarter tun, when it does drop. Where can I get a new gear (the one that sits on the tip of the motor)? Pretty much all the HK shops sell them. Just type "pinion" into the WGC search engine to see a variety. And what lube do I use? I just use white lithium grease (from a bicycle shop) to lube my gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 If I get a retailer to install the pinion gear, is it easy? My friends gear comes off quite easily, with a slight tug. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 If I get a retailer to install the pinion gear, is it easy? My friends gear comes off quite easily, with a slight tug. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's harder to remove the old one than fit a new one. You need to support the pinion gear somehow and then use something to hammer the shaft out. You can't just hold onto the motor casing and pull the pinion off. You need to secure the pinion gear and then push the shaft out from inside it. New ones tend to have a grub screw you tighten to attach or, if they're a press fit you need to make sure you place the bottom end of the motor on something hard, like a lump of metal, before you hammer the new pinion on. Have a look at this thread for more details: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...pic=38578&st=40 Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 WEll, if it is loose, does that mean I have to get a new one? Link to post Share on other sites
nextmayor Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 I need to know if the motor will fit in an ICS handgrip without modification, and if it is hard to "Adjust" it, once it is securely inside.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it will fit and it is a big improvement over the ICS Turbo motor. It will fit in the grip with no issues at all. It's no more difficult to adust the motor in an ICS than any other M16 AEG out there. However, there is one issue, IMO. I tried a System Torque Up Motor and an TM EG1000 in my ICS PCR-4 (M16A3). I crack 2 pinion gears on my Systema Motor (in my ICS) very quickly, within days. I then tried the TM EG1000. That motor worked a lot better in my ICS than the Systema one, but it too quickly showed signs of wear. I personally believe that their is an issue trying to make an non-ICS motor (pinion gear) to the ICS bevel gear. Once I swapped out the gear in my ICS, with Systema Flat Torque Up Gears, all of my pinion gear issues went away. On the other hand, a team mate used a Systema motor in his ICS (with ICS gears) for almost 1 year before he had issues. I'd say keep the ICS motor around, but give the TM one a try. Also, on the bottom of the motor, my friend said he lost a very small metal "disk", what is it and what does it do? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This disk is what the motor adjustment screw pushes against and is very important. However when you remove your ICS motor, you'll have the disk in there. Just use that disk when you install your TM motor. Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 What do you think next mayor, if i remove the head form the ICS and place it on the EG? Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 What if I bought SRC gears (supposedly marui compatible) which includes a bevel gear, and installed those? and bought an ICS pinion? Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Will ICS pinion go on Marui motor? If I swap it? Link to post Share on other sites
nextmayor Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 In regard to the ICS pinion on a TM motor, I've got no idea. I just scraped the ICS motor when it didn't have the toque I needed. However, you've got a great idea that needs to be looked at. I know off the bat you'll need a gear puller to remove the TM pinion and then a press to get a new one on. To tell you the truth though I've never looked at the ICS pinion to see how it's attached. In regard to gears, I'm a believer in you get what you pay for. I wouldn't get cheap on the gears. I'd recommend Systema gears, but if you're on a budget at least try to get something like CA or TM. Link to post Share on other sites
sadigh Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 you can get an ics motor shim disc off zero1 for £1.50 mate Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 I can't find the CA gears Will JUST a TM Bevel gear and pinion work? Link to post Share on other sites
nextmayor Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 I think a team mate of mine (AA screen name ClevelandSteamer) did that for about 1 year and it seemed to work alright. Drop him an PM for confirmation. Link to post Share on other sites
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