BigAl Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 According to Elite they use a simplified gas mechanism, will be speeking to him next week so I'll try and find out more. Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I ended up testing .20g, .25, and .30g BBs at an open field yesterday... .20g BBs tended to over hop (only by a little) and gets to about 180 feet .25g BBs shot straight and got to about 160 feet straight .30g BBs shot straight but dropped after around 130 feet Maybe the over hopped results were from whatever lube was put in the pistol. .25g BBs shoot fine. This was with green gas and Marui .25g BBs at about a 60 degree temperature. Another thing to note though... It seems like these pistols lack power (even with green gas). I'll have to compare it with an SCW2 pistol some other time. The only other pistol that I got to compare it to was my KSC Glock with a 6.05mm barrel. While the 1911 Magnatech shot 260ish with .25g BBs, my Glock17 shot around 290ish. Then again, this is the same Glock that was doing 345-355 with green gas and .25g (which theoreticalls shoots 385-395 with .20g BBs BBs) at 90 degrees last summer. Link to post Share on other sites
BARsrule2 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Anyone know the compatibility with other hammers and safeties? I might buy one of these and convert it into one of the modernized 1911s built by Navy Armorors for Marines. I've always wanted a .45 like that. EDIT: Nvm, hammer is the same as SCW 2 I'm SO picking this baby up when I get my pay check! Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 What's the difference between the blowback chamber internals? I thought they were the same as the SCW1/2s and only the hop up unit changed. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 It seems like these pistols lack power (even with green gas). I'll have to compare it with an SCW2 pistol some other time. The only other pistol that I got to compare it to was my KSC Glock with a 6.05mm barrel. While the 1911 Magnatech shot 260ish with .25g BBs, my Glock17 shot around 290ish. Then again, this is the same Glock that was doing 345-355 with green gas and .25g (which theoreticalls shoots 385-395 with .20g BBs BBs) at 90 degrees last summer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think 260fps with .25g @ 60 degrees F is just fine for a stock gun. It's a little unfair to compare it to an upgraded gun. Link to post Share on other sites
freq88 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Anyone know the compatibility with other hammers and safeties? I might buy one of these and convert it into one of the modernized 1911s built by Navy Armorors for Marines. I've always wanted a .45 like that. EDIT: Nvm, hammer is the same as SCW 2 I'm SO picking this baby up when I get my pay check! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why would you want to buy one of these and convert it into a MEU/Marsoc 1911 when WA has already released one? They do have the Late Model MEU and the Marsoc in SCW2 and the Kimber Warrior in SCW3 which is the same as the Marsoc minus the Marine Detent-1 Engravings. Link to post Share on other sites
BARsrule2 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Because the "MEU" that WA makes is not what I want. http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/meusoc.htm If I'm not mistaken, the WA model is too... factory finish. It looks more like some Kimber Custom to me than the real MEU. Whatever, either way I want to install a Commander hammer and beavertail grip safety onto this puppy, then give it a nice Duracoating and some real wood grips. T3h secks. Link to post Share on other sites
realityknight Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Anyone toss a heavier spring into one of these yet? Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Because the "MEU" that WA makes is not what I want. http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/meusoc.htm If I'm not mistaken, the WA model is too... factory finish. It looks more like some Kimber Custom to me than the real MEU. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you muddling the MARSOC and the MEU? http://64.124.25.51/meu_old.htm The MEU's are pretty good replicas of the Marine armourers modified 1911s, down to the markings and the, nearly, replica Pachmayr grips. Not saying you SHOULDN'T take the modding route (Hey, it's fun!), but I just wondered if maybe you were confusing the plethora of recent(ish) WA Marine related releases. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I think 260fps with .25g @ 60 degrees F is just fine for a stock gun. It's a little unfair to compare it to an upgraded gun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thus the latter part of my statement... 260 with .25g BBs translate to around 290...maybe even 300 FPS with .20g BBs...that's nothing to look down on... what I am really wondering about is how it compares to SCW1/2 WA GBBs. I'll try to find that out by sunday morning. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 290 at 65C sounds about right for a SCW single stack 1911. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Mould Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Product No.: WA-MA-COLT-GOVT-21-AG, Product No.: WA-MA-DELTA-15-S-AG or Product No.: WA-MA-1911-GOVR-S-23-AG will fit a full size 1911. I'd avoid those buffered ones, personally, they're a mare to fill with gas... Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are - I've got a SCW version 2 S&W 1911. Thankfully, having owned a lot of Tanaka revolvers I've gotplenty of the gas loading nozzles. Performance sounds good with this - although I'm not sure about the fixed hop (something in me always goes "agh" when I read about a fixed hop). Be interesting to see if their performance on Propane is up there with the version 2 single stacks. Mine was throwing out 280 on Sunday - according the car the temperature was -1 and there was a lot of ice on the ground. I'd expect the ABS slide to warp with use on propane - but no dount we'll see some metal slides sharpish. I'd avoid the PGC ones (had lots of fun fitting these) whilst the shooter's design ones are excellent. They're the only slides I've ever been able to fit without having to modify them. Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Mould Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 290 at 65C sounds about right for a SCW single stack 1911. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The version 2 single stacker gave us 310-5 on propane, and a pretty consistent 300 after a metal slide was fitted at 22 degrees c. Link to post Share on other sites
BARsrule2 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Are you muddling the MARSOC and the MEU? http://64.124.25.51/meu_old.htm The MEU's are pretty good replicas of the Marine armourers modified 1911s, down to the markings and the, nearly, replica Pachmayr grips. Not saying you SHOULDN'T take the modding route (Hey, it's fun!), but I just wondered if maybe you were confusing the plethora of recent(ish) WA Marine related releases. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think I was. Although the modding would be fun, I looked around for the parts and they are all either not 100% correct, way overpriced (80 bucks for a safety?!), or sold out. I will probably be getting the MEU Early/Former version after a helpful talk with Bullet_Magnet last night. Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Any reviews yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 290 at 65C sounds about right for a SCW single stack 1911. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dunno man.. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 OK - Maybe at 65F then You know we Brits always work in both - If it's cold it's below 0, but if it's hot it's over 70! Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Here are a couple of pics of the new "Magnatech" 1911 Military using the new SCW3 3 system. I will add a full review in the next couple of days Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Wow, nice sticker. What's it say? Link to post Share on other sites
Tef Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 pretty shinny indeed Link to post Share on other sites
Soloman Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I can feel a spontainous GBB purchase comming on Link to post Share on other sites
Hitlery Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Damn, it looks like a cheap springer.... Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Wow, nice sticker. What's it say? I have had the Japanese characters translated by ORCA- It says: "! If you can read this.....your too close....and by the way, we have your money" Damn, it looks like a cheap springer.... Well there is that- and honestly, in person.....I have the same thought. But its growing on me........ Review will be complete and posted in the next day- -G Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 First you people complain that while WAs look great, but are too expensive. Now you complain that while they're reasonably priced, they look like cheap springers. The thing costs less than a TM M9 and no one complains that looks like a cheap springer. Link to post Share on other sites
Qhs Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 What an ingenious way for covering the trademarks, if there are any. Link to post Share on other sites
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