pronteer Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 paul calvert has not sent my goods [a mouse] i sent him money 2 weeks ago and still have nothing to show for it apparently his password 'stopped' working so he started using his friend's account, Sam Wiggin. and Sam has just been telling me he's going to tell Paul bt nothing happens, i have had no contact from Paul since i sent the money im not sure if he/they are trying to rip me off. can mods check to see if the IPs for these 2 accounts are the same? thanks Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Try PMing this account... http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showuser=12419 I have had personal contact with this user this week and he has confirmed that he HAS had access problems to his original account, and that those problems are password based. Until those problems can be fixed, the account I linked to above is the one he is using. If you get in touch with him and are still having problems, post back. If you can resolve this deal via PM, please post here so we can move this thread to "Resolved Deals". Hope that helps R22. Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 ive been PMing both paul calvert and Sam wiggin, but only sam wiggin has been replying saying things such as "i'll tell him to send it". but i havent been sent any tracking number or anything even if he doesnt have access to his account, he can still send the parcel as i have given him my address. thats the thing that is worrying me Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Indeed. Have you tried PMing the "Paul Calvert 2" account I linked to above? As far as I am aware, he is currently active on that account. Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 i dont understand. why isnt he bothered about letting me know whats going on ? Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 I have PMed him on an account I know he uses, and directed him to this thread. Hopefully he should be able to sort things out with you direct once he gets my message Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 cheers, i've PM's him aswell, no reply yet though Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 I have just had a response from him to say that this has all been sorted and goods are on the way. Please confirm that this is the case and this thread can be moved to the "resolved matters" section. Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 not resolved, wheres my mouse, i want either my money back or the mouse now! Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 now he's trying to tell me that i am at fault because he was stupid enough to lose the tracking number. and he is telling me its not his fault because he has sent it. but rather conveniently he has no proof to show he has sent it i want my money back !! Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 still no tracking number given so basically, he has stolen my money i still see him coming online, iv sent him many pm's about sending me my money back etc or giving me the tracking number but no replies damn scammer *!stay away!* Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 still ignoring me Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Mods, i ask that you ban Paul Calvert because of obvious reasons thank you Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 As a seller it's in HIS interests to keep hold of the tracking number. If you claim not to have received the goods then HE can go to a post-office and confirm that the goods have been delivered to your address. R22 expressed an interest in this. PM R22 nd tell him you're still having problems. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 As a seller it's in HIS interests to keep hold of the tracking number. If you claim not to have received the goods then HE can go to a post-office and confirm that the goods have been delivered to your address. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Amen to that and further still the post offices contract for delivery is purely with the seller (unless buyer arranged the pickup) The PO will ONLY entertain claims from the contracted party, Even with a tracking number to quote at them the buyer has no chance of the PO following things up. I got in that situation years ago when a mate sent me 500 quid thru the post Special Del - the parcel got as far as my town according to track n trace but everything had to be dealt with from the senders end 300-odd miles away! (The local sorting office wouldnt even speak to me even though everyone concerned accepted the parcel had been in their office that morning) The general arrangement is the other party gets compensated by the sender and sender chases up his compen from post office (by quoiting his tracking number pointing out parcel wasnt received etc). If seller decides to give up his insurance by binning his tracking slip thats not the buyers problem. The only exception id make to that is if buyer has asked for/chosen the cheapest possible method of posting to be used In that case the buyer cant really expect any more of a refund than the basic compensation cover as they've opted to risk reduced compen from post office to get a cheap posting done BUT even that only really applies if seller has got his tracking number to prove the goods were actually sent. stevie Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 i wanted recorded delivery, which is the delivery he apparently sent it by. but ofcourse, i havent got it, so he never sent it. damn him ! Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 then he owes you the value up to the max compen for recorded if he can prove he sent if he cant prove he sent he owes you a full refund (dont know how much we're talkin about but even if thats more than compen for recorded) as per before he lost the slip for recorded thats his lookout - Lets face it if you had sent payment recorded, had lost the slip and it hadnt reached him then I cant see him sending the mouse, so i dont see how he's getting so snotty when boots on the other foot stevie Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Surely it depends on what was requested? If the buyer requests a method that doesn't compensate for the full value of the goods, that's their problem. If the seller chooses to use an inadequate method, that's their problem. Link to post Share on other sites
cracker Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 i think technically its the buyers responsibility to provide goods/refund to the FULL value. It's HIS responsibility to get the item to you as paid-for, or if he cant (due to it getting lost/damaged/not as advertised) then a FULL refund is due UNLESS however he specifically told you the item wasnt going to be insured for the full value and you agreed to this which is a lesson why all parcels should be sent with adequate insurance Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 agreed - if the seller can actually prove he sent the things at all by any method as he claims to have lost the slip then he cant prove he sent anything to anyone. seller can prove he sent them their in method requested? the buyer takes the hit on any excess buyer should have opted for a method with adequate insurance seller cant prove the goods went anywhere, by losing/junking the slip? then buyer is entitled to a refund in full otherwise someone buys a 200 quid AEG off of X and wants signed for post Why should X send anything? X could just wait a few weeks claim its lost in post (but awfully sorry theres no slip to prove it) then refund them the 21-quid max compen under signed for stevie Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hmm, looking at the thread, it seems the price was £20, so even normal recorded delivery should cover that. Bottom line, the seller needs to cough up a refund or the goods. If he's lost the postage slip, that's his tough luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 If I was selling an AEG to somebody and they said "hey, to sve a few quid on the postage, can you send it standard post?" guess what I'd do? I'd send it recorded delivery anyway. As I already said, it's in the SELLERs interests to know the item has been delivered. In the case of small, cheap, items it's no big deal cos it only costs a couple of quid to send it recorded delivery. In the case of larger objects it really should be a moot point cos you'd have to be retarded to send something expensive with no tracking number. Ask the guy who sent £300 cash through the post to Beano. I really don't understand what's up for discussion here. I mean, the SELLER is liable for delivering the goods to the buyer. Irrespective of postal insurance or whatever, if the goods don't turn up then the SELLER has to refund the buyers cash. If I give you the money for an AEG and one doesn't show up I want my f**king money back. End of. The buyer would have to be nuts to agree to a cheap form of postage with insufficient insurance. That gives the seller opportunity to either send an empty box or a damaged gun and then tell the buyer "Well, you did agree to the limited insurance cover." As I've been trying to say, if I'm the buyer of an item I really don't give a flying f**k how the item gets sent. It makes no difference to me at all so long as it arrives. It's the SELLER who has everything to lose by using cheap postage. He can't verify if the item was delivered. He's got no tracking facility if it gets lost. He can't claim for the item if it is lost. If you're selling an item it is ALWAYS up to YOU to ensure adequate postage. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 <snip> He's got no tracking facility if it gets lost. <snip> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He doesnt have it anyway. only people that actually properly track things are courier companys, RM just rack "in the system" and "delivered" Link to post Share on other sites
pronteer Posted January 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 this is his reply to me asking for my money back... SHUT THE *fruitcage* UP!!!! stop sending me these *suitcasey* *fruitcage* pms! I sent the gun teh monday before christmas. the only thing i sugest is that you go to your local post office and see if they can get a list of all parcels that have been sent ot your address and you will see that i sent the gun! Sending all these abusive pms wont help you get your mouse cos ive sent it ages ago. Im sorry i should have sent it on recorded delivery but i didnt know about it then but there is really nothing i can do. and you have put a negative point on my rep. I cant help if royal mail might have fuked up. i wouldnt scam you £12. if you look on ebay i have 100% positive feedback and I can give you a list of names of people who i have sold to on the forums that are very happy with the things i sold them. please stop sending the stupid pm's you ######. paul Link to post Share on other sites
cracker Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 if he is refusing to pay back the £12 then go to the small claims court if you have sufficient evidence to show a transaction took place (i.e. printouts of his forum advert/replies, PM's, emails, and a record of you paying him) then he will then have to pay you back the £12 and also all the associated court costs that will be incurred (£50+) its easy to do im sure he'd rather pay £12 than £60+! Link to post Share on other sites
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