Foxtrot Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Alright, I've been struggling over this question for about two months now, and come after the holidays and after I pick my multicam up, I'm going to be getting one of these two. Now, I know the CIRAS is SOCOM issued now, thusly more... 'realistic' kit. But, the PPM DAV I've seen quiet a bit in contractor pictures as well as, I assume, individules who bought their own kit for use out in the field? Some units might allow that, I know. Firstly, the pro's and cons I can see: PPM DAV: Pros: Costs less - roughly 350 USD Comes in REAL Coyote Tan I already know how it's going to feel - I've used my friend's before. It's PPM... good stuff. Removeable Comberbun Cons: A tad on the heavier side then the CIRAS Less MOLLE room (Not a ton, but.. a tad of a difference.) CIRAS: Pros: SOCOM issued More room (Land Version) Lighter then the DAV Cons: More expensive (about 500$) comes in Wheat, not coyote tan Never used one before. So, I'm asking to those who have used a CIRAS or both a CIRAS and a DAV... which? Link to post Share on other sites
saint bourrin Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 here is a picture, multicam with ciras tan ciras eagle with m4 pouches eagle in multicam Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I'd say get the CIRAS. But that's my geardo sense tingling. Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 PPM is geardo too In fact, they're an overlooked company. They offer a lot of good products, for a good price! Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I wasn't saying it's not. It's just it's a choice between the DAV or the CIRAS. The CIRAS. Hmm.. CIRAS. Link to post Share on other sites
wasted__youf Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 If you want to blow the money get the CIRAS. If you don't, then get the DAV. Troops buy what they want 1/2 the time, so you can use it for an impression. A friend of mine has a DAV and is very VERY pleased with the it. I'm sure he won't mind me hot linking. Also, buy your DAV from here: http://www.downrangesports.com/index.asp?P...ROD&ProdID=1514 For only $287.00 CIRAS seems to be the in thing at the moment, so if you want to stick out from the crowd, get the DAV. I chose a RAV over the CIRAS for that reason. Link to post Share on other sites
TriChrome Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Wow, that DAV is awesome. Somebody cool must wear it But I own the DAV, and I can attest it's very nice. You only loose the molle straps where the front external cumberbunds' straps go (where you really can't reach to grab anything out of a pouch anyway). I'm also glad I saved a couple hundred bucks, and it's much easier to put back together since only 1 side releases (and that's a positive because I just have to pull that cord all the time). Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Well, I found out last night I can get a CIRAS through work - which would probably knock the price tag down alot. As well, I wear an XL - 52 inch chest (Not fat.. just.. built?) So, I would still end up paying 400$ for a DAV too after everything. But, we shall see what employee costs are for the CIRAS. Right now I'm leaning towards the DAV, but if the CIRAS ends up being cheaper, we shall see.. Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 DAV, I prefer its looks to the CIRAS. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 If you want to blow the money get the CIRAS. If you don't, then get the DAV. Troops buy what they want 1/2 the time, so you can use it for an impression. A friend of mine has a DAV and is very VERY pleased with the it. I'm sure he won't mind me hot linking. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/TriC..._Front_left.jpg[/img] http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/TriC...Front_right.jpg[/img] http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/TriChrome/DAV_Back.jpg[/img] Also, buy your DAV from here: http://www.downrangesports.com/index.asp?P...ROD&ProdID=1514 For only $287.00 CIRAS seems to be the in thing at the moment, so if you want to stick out from the crowd, get the DAV. I chose a RAV over the CIRAS for that reason. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wasted, whats that? No I luv ur mom or Got Milf patches? knock some snese into him please Foxtrot, I would go for the DAV bacause it is origonal. If you can get the CIRAS for cheaper and don't take it, care to pass the deal along to me Link to post Share on other sites
TriChrome Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 You're stuck with the DAV then. I'm a 52" chest, and 42" waist, and the Large fits me perfectly ($317 + $15 shipping) I had my heart set on the Eagle Molle Plate Carrier (which is very similar to the CIRAS but without the bells and whistles and releasable feature), and I called up Eagle direct, and even with the extended cumberbund model (which isn't out yet), a 52" chest is too big for the rig to fit properly. Now that being said, a guy I play with is larger than I am and he fits into the CIRAS, but the elastic of the cumberbund is stretched, and the side panels don't touch the rear panel like it should. One thing to note if you order the DAV from DownRangeTactical.com; they shipped the slightly older model to me, which after I called up PPM they told me it only has 1 small difference to the newest model, and it's that the left buckle on the cumberbund should be 1 row further back (which bugged me, but I don't want to pay $40 to ship it back to PPM to get it fixed, which they said they'd do for free; but it still fits fine so it's OK). Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 My friend, I fouind out has a large DAV and it's big on him (he's a tad smaller then me, but not too much.) So I'm going to try to see if he'll let me try his on.. More I look at it, more I like the DAV over the CIRAS. And if I can wear a large DAV, I'll get that over a CIRAS. Link to post Share on other sites
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