ViciousV10s Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) Edited July 21, 2007 by ViciousV10s Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeant Bilko Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Simple pictures taken after completion: I want to come up with something to carve on the slide, a short Latin phrase or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 First off: Vicious that Glock is exceptionally cool (even compared to many of your other posts) but I was wondering what slide you have on it? Second: I have a problem that I could use some help on. As I was looking at my KSC Glock 17 the other day I realize that I have a very strange frame. It does have the Glock grip trade as well as a patent number like Vicious' proper old school frame. However, instead of the "Made in Austria, Glock INC." etc. it has a simply and ugly "Made in Taiwan" At any rate my reason for posting this is to gather as much information about this frame as I can. Is it a second generation KSC? Is it some weird promotional knockoff? I am disappointed that it is so close to the perfect old school but is ruined by one bad trade mark but any ID help would be much appreciated. Also I must apologize for my ugly KWA pot metal slide (makes note to self to order from Hong Kong soon ) In case there are other marks that I am not aware of here are pictures of both sides Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Romulus, there is nothing strange about your frame, the "made in Austria..." is actually a plastic insert that is glued into that spot on the frame. Every old school frame says "made in Taiwan" underneath that insert. Yours must have fallen out down the line. Oh and that's the Creation metal slide on my 17. Glad you like it. Edited July 22, 2007 by ViciousV10s Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Ah! That makes a lot of sense. Do you happen to know where one might obtain an insert by chance? Thanks for the help. Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 I've never seen the inserts sold anywhere... Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Alright, back to the drawing board I suppose. I guess that I needed another project... Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Romulus, there is nothing strange about your frame, the "made in Austria..." is actually a plastic insert that is glued into that spot on the frame. Every old school frame says "made in Taiwan" underneath that insert. Yours must have fallen out down the line. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you mean by "old school frame"? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 As in the old frames, the original frames that had all the trademarks on them before they started making them pretty much blank. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Oh, well I bought this thing like seven years ago, and this is what it says on the frame: Probably been posted in this thread a long time ago. EDIT: typo Edited July 22, 2007 by Yuri Link to post Share on other sites
geeza-sqeeza Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 heres my glock 18c with some dog tags lol and with my ics m4 Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Yuri now THAT is something Ive never seen before....from everything Ive ever heard, KSC guns were supposedly all made in Taiwan but the Japanese versions were just sent to Japan for quality control...I have never seen one stamped "Made in Japan" before...that's awesome. Does it have a tiny "JASG" on the front rail slot? What about the Glock logo on the frame? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Hey, cool! Here are pictures of the gun from both sides without the Hogue grip: As you can see, it's got the Glock logo on the grip. However, I can't find a JASG stamp anywhere on it. The metal slide is also pretty ancient, I bought it about a year after I bought the gun. I have no idea who makes the slide, but I suspect it was made by Zeke, since back then there were not many companies making metal slides. Link to post Share on other sites
Five-sEvEn Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Wow... Isn't that a 1st generation glock?... That's a rare sight... I've only heard of them, never pictures... Edit: ARGH IT HAS AN AFTERMARKET METAL SLIDE! I want to see what the original 1st gen plastic slides looked like! I heard they had deep trades, while that metal slide has trades about the same depth as today's metal slides. Edited July 22, 2007 by Five-sEvEn Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 (edited) Relax, I've got the original slide right here. The trades are a bit more robust than the ones on the metal slide. I'll post some pics in the morning if you want (it's well past 1 AM here right now). I can't quite pinpoint the date I bought the gun, but it was summer, and I distinctly remember paying for it with Marks, the original finnish currency, so it had to be before the Euro was introduced, which was January first, 2002. So it was either the summer of 2000, or 2001. Edited July 22, 2007 by Yuri Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 The barrel lacks exhaust ports. Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) http://mathub.free.fr/airsoft/repliques/shuey/IMG_0001.jpg http://mathub.free.fr/airsoft/repliques/shuey/IMG_0002.jpg http://mathub.free.fr/airsoft/repliques/shuey/IMG_0003.jpg The barrel lacks exhaust ports. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice 34. Real 34s don't have ports, so you are good to go! Edited July 23, 2007 by ViciousV10s Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 So the KSC G34 metal barrel is inaccurate. I'll add a magwell soon. Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 So the KSC G34 metal barrel is inaccurate. I'll add a magwell soon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is correct sir, the KSC G34 ports are not realistic. You should get the new Guarder frame that has all the real Glock trademarks on it as well! Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yuri, the easiest way to tell if it's a KSC 1st. gen Glock is to check the feed ramp (part #10). If it's metal, it's very likely you have a 1st. gen Glock, my friend. Also check the plastic slide. If it's 1st. gen, it won't have metal reinforcements at the front like the newer slides. yes, I've been around long enough to see and own a 1st. gen Glock myself Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) So the KSC G34 metal barrel is inaccurate. I'll add a magwell soon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Planning on adding that SD magwell or going to try and fit a RS magwell? BTW if anyone wants to sell me their broken, used or abused TM G17 (3rd Gen) shoot me a PM. Edited July 23, 2007 by junior Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yuri, the easiest way to tell if it's a KSC 1st. gen Glock is to check the feed ramp (part #10). If it's metal, it's very likely you have a 1st. gen Glock, my friend. Also check the plastic slide. If it's 1st. gen, it won't have metal reinforcements at the front like the newer slides. yes, I've been around long enough to see and own a 1st. gen Glock myself <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right, the original feed ramp was plastic. It broke a few years ago and I've replaced it with a metal one. Also, the slide isn't reinforced in any way. Here's a picture of it: Mathub: Those are some nice sights you've got on that Glock. Link to post Share on other sites
cheese_pie_man Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Any of you guys got any broken glock slides or frames? or old ones you swapped for metal? Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Any of you guys got any broken glock slides or frames? or old ones you swapped for metal? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've got plenty. About enough slides/frames/internals to make 1 or 2 semi-working G17s. Are you looking for a part in particular or just want a spare frame/slide? Mathub: How hard was the Boomarms slide to install? hkssr20det's G17 put up a fight when he went to install the G34 slide, I was just curious if their all that tough. Link to post Share on other sites
cheese_pie_man Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 You're in US mate the postage would be too much to make it worth it. Sorry. Anyone in the uk? Link to post Share on other sites
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