axl Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Haha well said Vicious Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 LOL I thought you lost those pictures.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought you'd appreciate that Junior. I found a bunch of my pictures on an old laptop I had forgotten about! YAY! Link to post Share on other sites
the sniper Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Vicious As if we need reminding I love the rack of guns pic two questions for you How fast was the slide once you fitted the J point sight to it as I was thinking of adding one to my TM 34 glock Which extending stock fits the ksc glock 17 (old school frame) thanks Link to post Share on other sites
shaggy-z Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 23f doesnt exist in real life anyway <{POST_SNAPBACK}> actually i saw a hybrid cut Glock 23 and a Glock 35 at a gun show in august. not called a 23F tho... i bet u could get the guts of a RS Glock 18C in a 23 frame and a hybrid cut slide/barrel.. .. still wont be called 23F tho..but close enuff -SZ Link to post Share on other sites
RSP1 Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Vicious As if we need reminding I love the rack of guns pic two questions for you How fast was the slide once you fitted the J point sight to it as I was thinking of adding one to my TM 34 glock Which extending stock fits the ksc glock 17 (old school frame) thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't have the answer to either of those questions, but I will say that the TM G17/G34 may not accept the real sight mount, since the dovetail is not really all the way through the top of the slide, and the rear sight or in this case the sight mount, simply screws in from below through the BBU. For this reason said rear sight assembly needs to be threaded with the right size threading in the right place so that the screw from the blowback unit can attach to it - this not only holds in the sight but is the only real means by which the blowback unit is held into the slide. Perhaps you already have the G34, know this, and have planned for it, but on the other hand it's possible that it's a 'buy it all at once' build you're planning, in which case this information is very important. Link to post Share on other sites
the sniper Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Thanks for the info RSP1 but I do already have my TM glock and am quite aware of the rear sight problem, and will machine a spacer / adapter to deal with it question for you though how much time did the magwell take to fit. what needed machining, frame, magwell, back strap clamp Link to post Share on other sites
RSP1 Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Thanks for the info RSP1 but I do already have my TM glock and am quite aware of the rear sight problem, and will machine a spacer / adapter to deal with it question for you though how much time did the magwell take to fit. what needed machining, frame, magwell, back strap clamp <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nothing needed machining, which is good since I don't own a mill or lathe. There was some filing to be done, basically on the back end of the back strap where the magwell snaps on. Essentially, the backstrap is a little farther back than on the real one, and its curve, seen from directly above or below the gun, is more gentle or of a larger radius than on the real one. It didn't take more than 10 minutes to do this filing on the frame, and at that point the magwell snapped on. I believe you are supposed to have it hook onto the bottom finger swell bit on the frontstrap, then snap it onto the backstrap. However, I had better luck doing the reverse, perhaps due to the flexibility of the ABS. Getting magazines to work took slightly longer. I did a little filing on the inside of the frame's magazine area, since apparently the Dawson magwell 'pinched' the sides slightly, and mags would not drop free. I also took out the plastic magwell insert and sanded down the inside edge of that, to make more room for the mag baseplate. This was not enough, so I also took a trusty dremel tool and beveled the top edge of the magazine baseplate all around as you see here: Because of the small plug in the back of the TM frame, I was not able to fit the small brass insert, which increases frame weight to decrease felt recoil on the firearm. The plastic plug seems like it might be removable, but personally this brass insert did not matter to me, so I let it be. The magwell is very secure and I have no problems with the mags not dropping free. Since baseplates are essentially flush with the bottom of the magwell, I suggest using the SD +2 baseplate replicas for a better grip, though I imagine these require modification just as the stock baseplates do. Edit: now with pic, just for the sake of this being a pic thread: Edited September 19, 2007 by RSP1 Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Surprisingly the magwell for my KSC G17 took much more work to fit, but the same methods were used. I pretty much had to reshape both the grip cavity, and the magwell in order for it to fit. On the other hand, the frame's magazine area didn't require any work for the magazines to drop free. It's a shame, all that work I did….I should've used a nicer magwell. Link to post Share on other sites
the sniper Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 thanks for that RSP1 and Junior I think that has made my mind up and I will have to get one RSP1 as for the small plastic plug in the backstrap it does come out it is only held in with sticky tape. All I did was drill a screw into it and pull Link to post Share on other sites
Wai Hoong Chan Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Either does the 26C but we are talking about a complete KSC collection. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair doos, but Im happy to say he has a complete Glock collection Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Vicious As if we need reminding I love the rack of guns pic two questions for you How fast was the slide once you fitted the J point sight to it as I was thinking of adding one to my TM 34 glock Which extending stock fits the ksc glock 17 (old school frame) thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks, the rack pics are some of my favorites as well. The J-Point red dot weighs practically nothing, certainly not enough to notice any difference in cycle rate. The stock I used was a Fobus TAC stock but it needed a bit of modding to fit into the KSC 17 frame. The KSC frames are pretty far off from the RS dimensions in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites
Epoque Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I finally found a 1st gen frame for my 17 Now I need a better metal frame (Creation?) and Trijicon sights Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I finally found a 1st gen frame for my 17 Now I need a better metal frame (Creation?) and Trijicon sights <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice 17. You mean a better metal slide right? I def suggest the Creation. Link to post Share on other sites
Epoque Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) You're right, metal slide... I need to sleep more than 3 hours I don't like the markings on my GP slide... My first choice was the Shooters Design slide, but the Creation one seems to be much better Edited September 19, 2007 by Epoque Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 The SD Slide has a blued look to it. From the pictures of the Creation slide, I like it a bit more as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 My new KSC Glock 19c from Slug Pellets: Shooters Design G19c slide Straight G19 Frame (anyone care to tell me what make?) Proud Glock mag base plate Hurricane strengthened recoil spring What do you guys think? Chrissy Link to post Share on other sites
Sh0ty Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Great Glock Chrissy, wish I had the straight frame myself. I suggest you paint the dots on those sights white (maybe they, are, but the pics look black) for faster target acquisition. Other than the sights, dynamite gun. -Sh0ty Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Great Glock Chrissy, wish I had the straight frame myself. I suggest you paint the dots on those sights white (maybe they, are, but the pics look black) for faster target acquisition. Other than the sights, dynamite gun. -Sh0ty <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cheers man Yeah the sights are being sorted out at the moment. Tippex is great stuff Will update the pics when the sights are done. Any ideas what make the frame would be? Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm guessing KSC? Link to post Share on other sites
Sh0ty Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm not sure, but I think the frames are custom done by retailers (the frame is chopped and an aluminum insert is put in) but again, I'm not positive. I'd love to get one for my G23F. How does it feel in the hand? -Sh0ty Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) That's a stock frame put out by KSC. It comes on the 18C, 34 and 19. EDIT: BTW thats a sweet looking 19C Chrissyg. Edited September 23, 2007 by junior Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I don't think it is KSC, might well be wrong, but it definitely doesn't feel like the stock frame. It feels a lot more like the real steel Glock 19 that I fired in Switzerland - thus VERY nice. The frame feels cold to the touch almost like metal and is very heavy. As for the actual grip, its perfect. Fits very very nicely, however I'd love to see what it feels like with a Hogue on it. Definitely worth the straight frame instead of the standard one. Chrissy edit: Fair enough if its KSC Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Definitely KSC Shown on KSC website The frame is probably the heavyweight frame, which does feel cold to the touch because of the metal content in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Madmaxthe2nd Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) KSC G17 Japanese Version Edited September 23, 2007 by Madmaxthe2nd Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) I don't think it is KSC, might well be wrong, but it definitely doesn't feel like the stock frame. It feels a lot more like the real steel Glock 19 that I fired in Switzerland - thus VERY nice. The frame feels cold to the touch almost like metal and is very heavy. As for the actual grip, its perfect. Fits very very nicely, however I'd love to see what it feels like with a Hogue on it. Definitely worth the straight frame instead of the standard one. Chrissyg edit: Fair enough if its KSC <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Most likely because of the difference of the KSC/KWAs imported to the UK compared to other places like the US. Wheres the frame for 19s and 23Fs are heavyweight material in the US instead of just ABS as seen in the UK. Nice 19C Chrissyg. Edited September 24, 2007 by ViciousV10s Link to post Share on other sites
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