Jagdraben Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Read a review on the GSR (SCW3) and the MARSOC (SCW2). Could someone tell me whether or not the things which make the GSR apparently sub-par for WA GBBs are inherent to all or most SCW3 1911s? Should I just skip the GSR and Warrior for the MARSOC? Link to post Share on other sites
PenGun Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) Should have some cool customised olive-gray AlumaGrips coming pretty soon for my Kimber...will post pics when they get here Hope they fit... I've heard from a few people that the SCW3 system seems to offer the same overall performance as SCW2 but its just the Magnatech branded guns that are not as 'fancy' as the usual WA guns in terms of finish. Havne't handled one myself yet but the MARSOCs are about as good as a WA get. Its hard to tell it from the real thing Plus the GSR slide might look cool but that weird hammer makes me think it looks like a toy. Which it is but damnit I want it to look REAL Edited January 25, 2007 by PenGun Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 The real one has a nearly identical hammer. So the GSRs and Warriors should be up to par with previous WA 1911s so long as one avoids the MagnaTech GSRs and Warriors? Link to post Share on other sites
PenGun Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 So the GSRs and Warriors should be up to par with previous WA 1911s so long as one avoids the MagnaTech GSRs and Warriors? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think so. Though I'm sure more knowledgeable persons might be able to post a comparison pic??? Maybe snowman has a pic on his review site... *Goes off to look at site...* Link to post Share on other sites
PenGun Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 So either MRP is an authentic marking, or RedWolf is misinformed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think its meant to stand for 'Marui Race Pistol', hence the 2011 style frame and Bomar-style sights... Could always be 'Many Rubbish Pistols'...(stock HiCapa's are yukky noob guns ) Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 The main difference I have found with my Magna-Tech's and my SCW guns (other than fixed hop) is the depth of the trademark stampings and the lack of backing in the slide stop area- M-T on top, SCW bottom- Notice the almost gaping hole in the slide stop notch area- you can see through to the spring guide and spring through there, whereas the SCW, albeit in metal slide and frame kit here, has backing there to reinforce that area (the original plastic slide has the same backing) Magna-Tech SCW3 Officer's Model No backing here either- the M-T GSR's are the same -G Link to post Share on other sites
PenGun Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 If you want even more bling, then have a look at the Ajax Pewter Grips... Not sure if they do them for Officers Models but you can get laminated wood grip with medallions on them which are really nice! Their site is kinda slow but there is some cool (and downright gaudy ) stuff on it! Regards PenGun Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) I think so. Though I'm sure more knowledgeable persons might be able to post a comparison pic??? Maybe snowman has a pic on his review site... *Goes off to look at site...* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No SCW3 guns on the site. So now I'm confused... eHobbyAsia has the GSR and the Warrior listed as MagnaTechs, but Redwolf doesn't. If it turns out that the GSR and Warrior are unavailable in MagnaTech versions, I'm right back at the starting point. Edited January 25, 2007 by Jagdraben Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 The GSR and Warrior aren't magnatech's, just SCW3. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 It looks like WA did two different mold versions of the GSR. One version is the stainless and matte black versions which look like regular WAs, while the XO-ish GSR (with the black grips) looks like a MagnaTech. That being based on pictures of the two with the slide catch... the Warriors all appear to be decidedly non-MagnaTech-ized, in that manner. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 IRC, even the one with no backing to the slide catch notch isn't considered a magnatech. I'm pretty sure it's not listed on the same page on the WA site, with the magnatech range. It is/was also a lot more expensive than magnatechs. Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 wasn't the GSR the first scw3 gun to be released? narrowly after the magnatechs (scw3), perhaps WA hadnt quite finished the true scw3 system when the gsr was released, so it had the quality materials of the regular WA's, but with the slidestop gap present on magnatechs. Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) That slide stop gap should not make or break your decision, hell, even the scw2 experts had the gaps. EDIT: heh, funny how one word can change your entire sentence. Edited January 25, 2007 by r.ocelot Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix360mute Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 if you want a nice gun, head to the sales thread in about an hour from now, there shall be summin neat there for any .45 lovers with the cash to make either a nice plastic gun, or a DAMN nice metal one the whole point is MAKE, you'll understand just aftert noon Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'm confused now..... Magna, SCW, SCW1, SCW2, SCW3, magnatech..... Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) Magna/r-type - The gas system for most older WA's (not sure what was used before that) SCW - Shibuya Custom Shop - A name attached to some of the higher end WA r-types SCW1 - First improvement on the gas system, stronger blowback, more realistic fake firing pin area (dodgy actual firing pin though) SCW2 - Second improvement on the gas system, improved blowback, diffirent firing pin set up to prevent light strikes. SCW3 - Just a bit of tinkering with SCW2, different firing pin design and fixed hop up I thought, but a few still have adjustable apparently. Magnatech - Uses SCW3 system, but light weight ABS used, shallow trades,seemingly stamped with evidence of box around them, fixed hop up, no backing to the slide notch area, cheaper and general poorer finish to the full priced WA's. Edited January 25, 2007 by hitmanNo2 Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) Aah, thank you hitmanNo2. Anyone ordered this yet? Imbel 1911 I just ordered one, was wondering how good the finish is. I don't care about the mechanism, performance etc. Thanks Edited January 25, 2007 by 1911 Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix360mute Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 new sig Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here saves you the hastle of clicking the link. Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted January 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I just found this. Dedicated to those who loves the more authentic weathered look of M1911A1. http://www1.kcn.ne.jp/~protec/1911/1911.html Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 looks pretty impressive, nothing a sheet of wet-n-dry couldn't produce I think.. hbc. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Looks amazingly lovely :wub: :wub: Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here they are with the new grips, I've decided to get some real hogue grips instead so these are up for sale ;) cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
ViciousV10s Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Quite nice HBC, I think the wood grips compliment the fancy pants design of those Tommy Franks nicely. Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Quite nice HBC, I think the wood grips compliment the fancy pants design of those Tommy Franks nicely. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was looking for something a bit more light, in images they looked similar to cocobolo but in reality they're a bit more subtle.. lovely grain though. If they don't sell I wreckon I'll simply install some of those rubber finger grooves that sit under the grips.. Link to post Share on other sites
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