phoenix360mute Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) edit, teh fook, thats an odd double post Edited February 13, 2007 by phoenix360mute Link to post Share on other sites
CplHicks Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 LOL. Mine still needs a few more finishing touches. Link to post Share on other sites
CplHicks Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Grips came this morning. Well pleased with them. Link to post Share on other sites
Mt_05 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Beautiful Hicks, i want one now Edited February 14, 2007 by Mt_05 Link to post Share on other sites
dj_unforgetable Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 just a question for the TM 1911A1: whats the major diff between the pgc and the guarder metal kits other than trades? which one fits better and is easier to install? I hear the pgc requires a lot of filing down (as does the guarder) but the creation ones r the best fit? opinions? Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 whats the major diff between the pgc and the guarder metal kits <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can actually find the Guarder Kit in stock. Other than that, my understanding is that the PGC kit takes more filing down and is harder to install, but is of a much blacker and realistic color and thus more popular. And I think the process and the finish is a little better too (if you look closely at some pictures of the kit, the metal looks a little cloudy). Can't comment on the Creation kits. Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 I believe PGC mill their kits, whereas the guarder kit is cast. Link to post Share on other sites
PoP Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 My lil Wilson... Link to post Share on other sites
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dj_unforgetable Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 So the guarder kits fit better than the pgc ones huh? but the pgc looks better eh? damn these decisions... btw, the creation kit on airsoft global costs $239 a clean $100 more than the guarder or the pgc (i dont know why) but people tell me it fits like a charm and is much better quality than the pgc or guarder? btw, the guarder ones r a bit rough right? are the pgc's smoother? Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) So the guarder kits fit better than the pgc ones huh? but the pgc looks better eh? damn these decisions... btw, the creation kit on airsoft global costs $239 a clean $100 more than the guarder or the pgc (i dont know why) but people tell me it fits like a charm and is much better quality than the pgc or guarder? btw, the guarder ones r a bit rough right? are the pgc's smoother? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Neither fit well, both require filing, but I think the Guarder is easier to install. If you've never installed/watched someone install a kit, PGC might not be a great choice. What do you mean by rough? Like a rough body or rough cycling? I think the PGC is smoother, yeah. edit As for the Creation price difference, you have to take into account that it comes with a metal Outer Barrel as well. Edited February 15, 2007 by res0290 Link to post Share on other sites
CplHicks Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 AirsofAlex - Cool you get to play with all the good toys. Link to post Share on other sites
CplHicks Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Anyone know where I can get a black chamber and hammer, both for a SCW2 gun, cheap? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkMM Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Well after 4 months waiting in a customs shed... I need to work on my photography skills. But now I have 2 1911s, I need more...... Link to post Share on other sites
Hades Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 res0290 The PGC sets are extremely easy to install and rather the guarder sets seem to need a bit more massaging. The PGC set only needed the Leaf spring to be trimmed for width. Also the guarder sets are cast and the PGC sets are CNC. Link to post Share on other sites
airsoftalex Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've installed a guarder kit on my 1911. It took about 45 mins, with most of the time making predetermined modifications. These are shown on the WGC site. A small amount of slide action filing is required to make it smooth. The quality/finish is excellent and highly comparible to Prime kits for other guns which price upto 300-400. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 res0290 The PGC sets are extremely easy to install and rather the guarder sets seem to need a bit more massaging. The PGC set only needed the Leaf spring to be trimmed for width. Also the guarder sets are cast and the PGC sets are CNC. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's good news, I was afraid it'd be too difficult to install. I've only seen a kit installed on a WA and I've never done it myself. Link to post Share on other sites
dj_unforgetable Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Yea, I dont mind a little filing, but I installed a PGC (springfield armory) metal slide on my tm hi capa and that required a lotta filing for the sights, the rails etc. I hope the PGC isn't a pain to install cause I rather like disassembling and fiddling around, but I also like puttin it back together and firing off rounds with that metal sound...oh yea..... Link to post Share on other sites
Hades Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 dj unforgetable- I also like to tinker with things, The PGC Set took about 45 including I had never taken the gun apart until that day, so it was a learning process. After I had put it together, if takes about 15 minutes to take it apart and reassemble it nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 @ dj unforgetable If you've never taken apart a pistol frame before, might help, at least you8 won't be totally unaware of springs that might shoot out. The guy is taking down a WA, but all pistols are very similar. This helped me alot when i disassembled a pistol for the 1st time. Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 uh oh, another non-picture post.. anyways, does anyone know if it's possible to fit a silencer to a 1911 compact with conical SV type barrel... P360M referred me to poweredge, but from what I can see, the smallest threaded barrel they sell is for the 3.9" SV, and I think that is longer than the barrel I'd need.. for reference, the outer barrels on my guns are just under 2 inches long.. cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix360mute Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 i thought that the '3.9 reffered to the length of the lide, not the outer barrel, seeing as normal 1911's would be a 5 inch one? Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 ahah! ahahaha! I see, you're probably right, well, you are right.. maybe their images are a little stretched on the website. ta. Link to post Share on other sites
charliecloud Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Springfield Twin Comp - All Silver Model Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 (edited) Almost as ugly as the Gigant: Please dont' neg rep me for this Edited February 18, 2007 by r.ocelot Link to post Share on other sites
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