Crandall Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Guys, PISTOLS ONLY is the key phrase here! Link to post Share on other sites
Monk Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 It's the UMP (Universal Machine Pistol). It fires a pistol round, a hallmark of both the machine pistol and the SMG, it really doesn't have the pistol configuration and as such falls under the heading of full SMG. And it's an AEG. And for bonus points, one was given away at BIOHAZARD II. Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Now you guys are just being idiots.... Link to post Share on other sites
skyler8158 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Glock 18C EBB? (NOT AEP) Link to post Share on other sites
theNAMmagazine Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 NOPE, NOPE and...NOPE! But by all means fellas, keep trying! /o/ Link to post Share on other sites
theNAMmagazine Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Somebody got it but they need to clarify their answer a bit more! Link to post Share on other sites
hivemind Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg26-e.htm Czech Skorpion vz 61? Link to post Share on other sites
skyler8158 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Maruzen MP5K GBB? Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 G&G UMG - which is actually the UMP but not trademarked so they made up a name? Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Somebody got it but they need to clarify their answer a bit more! What is the UMP? Oooh, the Daily Double! Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Wait, we can't use EBB's?! Link to post Share on other sites
theNAMmagazine Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Okay, now two people have guessed it. BUT, I need a complete answer in one single post. There's still time for you others to steal the info and combine it into one single post. Don't forget to tell me why! Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm stumped, if it's the UMP, then wouldn't the P90 also qualify? and the upcoming MP7? My UZI guess is also a 9mm pistol ammo firing SMG - so what is the key qualifying difference? It has to have "pistol" in the name? Link to post Share on other sites
Monk Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Also, just to verify this so that I don't get bombarded here in the posts too, we received an email asking the following: [/b] Subject: What is considered a pistol? "Hello, I am seriously considering going to your east coast event but I have a question about the “pistols only” rule. The gun in question is a KWA MAC 11 Gas Blow Back Machine Pistol. The real steel is classified as a pistol. I would hate to show up with this and not be able to play. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Pete" Close...but no cigar. The MAC 10 & 11 are not "machine pistols" but are actually submachine guns:[/color] http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg22-e.htm Sadly, as with the MP5K, they fall under the SMG rule which is...well...no. There is only one exception to this rule (by name only) but it is also not allowed at the event because it's airsoft version falls under the AEG classification...any takers? The winner, aka the first person to post the correct and COMPLETE answer here, gets a free Operation: Biohazard II DVD, so tell your friends! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The name of a UMP says Machine Pistol, but it's really more of a marketing ploy. True machine pistols are really just fully automatic versions of pistols, such as the 93R and the Glock 18C. Even the Stechkin is a true machine pistol. The UMP is no more a pistol and the MP5 (which also calls itself a machine pistol). Then again, the MP44 is the grandfather of assault rifles and was named MP to put off Hitler who felt the Wehrmacht didn't need another rifle. From Modern Firearms: "The UMP (Universal Machinen-Pistole = Universal Submachine Gun) had been developed by the Heckler & Koch company of Germany in the mid- to late- 1990s and first appeared on the markets in 1999. The key idea behind the UMP was to ceate lightweight and powerful submachine gun, that also will be cheaper than one of the J&K's flagships, the MP-5. UMP, being targeted primary for USA law enforcement market, first appeared in .45ACP and .40SW chamberings, and later - in 9mm. The UMP is a blowback-operated select-fire submachine gun, being fired from the closed bolt. The receiver is made from the polymer, the controls are fully ambidextrous. UMP can be fired in full-auto, in single shots, and in 2 or 3 round bursts (optional). UMP also has bolt hold-open device, which traps the bolt in the open position when the last round from magazine had been fired. UMP has side-folding buttstock and two set of picatinny rails - one on the top of the receiver, and the other - on the forend. " Link to post Share on other sites
theNAMmagazine Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 The P90 is actually classified as a PDW or Personal Defense Weapon and fires a miniaturized rifle round. And the answer to your second question about the name can be found in the contest post... Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 How about an M60 with the 7.62mm crossed out and .380ACP scratched in? Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 soooooo.... the "real steel" has to be qualified as a pistol? Am I getting warmer? And what does that make the FN 5-7 then? a mini-rifle round firing pistol? Man, I am stumped... Link to post Share on other sites
theNAMmagazine Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 One of you is killing me! Two posts with half the right answer! I can't say more without giving it away.... Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 A CAW revolving launcher with ".357 Magnum" written on each shell? Link to post Share on other sites
Some_Guy Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Glock 18c and M93r AEP because full auto capabilities/electric battery.... Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Because the UMP fires the .45ACP which stands for automatic colt pistol, making it an automatic pistol, but it's not allowed because the airsoft versions are AEGs? Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Ok, the G&G UMG, which is actually the UMP (universal machine pistol) Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 KSC M93R?? MP5? Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 KSC M93R?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> An AEG if I ever saw one. The short bus is that way. -> Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 LOl (name removed), I missed that part Link to post Share on other sites
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