davedawg123 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 10. Charge time - First charge took two hours and fifteen minutes using the included charger. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mine took about an hour and a half before it got warm and I unplugged it. Does the charger have a cutoff timer? Or does the LED on the charger change color? I think I read somewhere that the charger was timed, but I can't seem to find it (or maybe it was just my imagination since I've been dreaming about this gun for awhile now). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Ok went over the destructions for the charger and it does have a cut off. The light will go from Green to off mode which cuts off the charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Green? Mine was red while charging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
famman47 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Ok went over the destructions for the charger and it does have a cut off. The light will go from Green to off mode which cuts off the charge. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've noticed that when using my AEP charger for my g18c battery, the battery becomes hot to the touch and remains so for a good length of time before the LED turns off. Is it possible that these chargers may be overcharging the batteries a bit even though they eventually cut off? I've charged my mp7 battery just once since receiving it today, but I left the house while it was charging and returned long after the charger had cut off, so I haven't yet observed if the mp7 charger has the same tendency. Staticzero, do you have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) I've only charged the one battery so far. I plugged it in an observed the red LED was on. I let it be, figuring it would take about two hours based on existing reports. Every so often, perhaps every fifteen minutes or so, I felt it to see if it was getting warm or in some cases just to see if the light was still on. After about two hours I started to wonder if the light would actually every turn off so I started checking it every five minutes or so. At no time did I observe the battery being excessively hot to the touch. At around the two hours and fifteen minutes mark I noticed the light was off. It was a good thing too since I had to leave. I pulled the battery and shoved it in my pocket along with the charger. It still didn't feel excessively hot to the touch at this point. Keep in mind this is just one instance of charging one battery. Don't start drawing conclusions based on it. We'll see what happens with the next one. nice rundown, staticzero. how bout discharging that nicd? any insight there? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For the moment, no. Use it until it's dead. Ultimately I'm going to hack the power brick off and charge/discharge using my fast charger. That'll solve that problem for me at least. If you were stuck with the included wall charger it may be possible to cut the wire and install tamiya connectors in line with it. Then you could connect the battery half to a regular old discharger if you so desired, or another charger. Update to the list: 26. Magazine capacity - The magazine holds fifty rounds and of them all fifty can be fired. However if an unfinished mag is changed two BBs will drop out. Edited February 14, 2006 by staticzero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 confirms what I was thinking, then. tamiya connectors it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) Dean's in my case . Another quick observation, I can (quite neatly) fit two mags per TAG 40mm grenade pouch. Otherwise it's one mag per pistol mag pouch of the one's I've tried so far. Update: Battery #2 just finished charging. It also took around two hours and was slightly warm, but not hot, to the touch. Also, the side rails are not G36C-sized. They are shorter and the spacing is different. The slot spacing is the same but the bars are narrower. Here are a few pics to keep those of you waiting for the delivery man salivating. With G&G SS-100 fitted. With SS-100 and AimPoint on ARMS #22 mount. With SS-100 and AimPoint on ARMS #22 mount with forward riser. The sights co-witness well though the AimPoint is a bit too high in this configuration. With SS-100 and AimPoint on ARMS #22 mount with forward riser and G&G GP6-II light (obscured). Now for some comparisons. Note that the gun(s) further back will appear slightly smaller due to the angle. Clockwise from left: TM HiCapa 5.1, TM MP7A1, TM P90 TR, UTG MP5, KWA M11A1. Top: UTG MP5, Bottom: TM MP7A1. Top: KWA M11A1, Bottom: TM MP7A1. Top: TM MP7A1 (mag inserted part way to simulate what a 'long' mag might look like), Bottom: KWA M11A1. Top: TM P90 TR, Bottom: TM MP7A1 (mag inserted part way to simulate what a 'long' mag might look like). Edited February 14, 2006 by staticzero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yf22k Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Itching to get one! I'm searching for accessories including some sort of holster. What length is that supressor? The gun looks great. I look forward to your further review of the mp7! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{MIA}Gmac Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) OK, Wupjak just asked me a good question. Since we're dealing with nicd's here, how do we discharge the battery, besides firing? Does the custom battery charger discharge the battery if the charger isn't plugged in? Although the main MP7 manual has English translations at the bottom, there is a separate paper for the charger and battery that's only in Japanese. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is no necessity in the real world to discharge NiCds once in use. Just re-charge, unless you always discharged and re-charge precisely ( as the original Nicads in Nasa Sats were ) the same amount, you have no chance of getting battery memory. All the sensible evidence points this out, and practical experience of our rental batteries over several years has confirmed it. Edited February 14, 2006 by {MIA}Gmac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey all, just got mine today! hurah! it rocks, (to look at!) but im haveing probems wit the charger in that i cant gharge it! any suggestions!? im in the Uk so the charger supplied wont work, anyone know how i can rig it to charge from uk power points!? through a fast charger maybe!? any help here would be hot cheers guys in advance 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey all, just got mine today! hurah! it rocks, (to look at!) but im haveing probems wit the charger in that i cant gharge it! any suggestions!? im in the Uk so the charger supplied wont work, anyone know how i can rig it to charge from uk power points!? through a fast charger maybe!? any help here would be hot cheers guys in advance 5. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why don't you just hop down to your local DIY shop/warehouse and get a UK-US voltage converter? Works the same. If you got money to spend, then you could chop the charging adapter for the battery, rewire it to a standard AEG battery plug and plug thart into your intelligent/smart charger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FJ2 - Kaye Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I was planning on replacing the Japanese charger with a Tamiya connector to plug it into a fast charger. If you do that, tell me how it goes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aeig Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey FarEast, and everyone else who's interested: You don't have to take the gun off of Safe to pull the charging handle back. There's a small lever right above the trigger that you push up which unlocks the charging handle. So here's to still being safe while adjusting hopup! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soloman Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Wondered why it got stuck sometimes :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neubine Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Has anyone noticed that thier spare mags sticking and hard to put in? The one that came with the MP7 work fine but all the other ones seems to stick really hard. I have to slam it to get it into the magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neubine Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 For those itching to see what it looks like with an EOTech Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) why don't you just hop down to your local DIY shop/warehouse and get a UK-US voltage converter? i took the easy option and cut the wires off and hooked it up to my fast charger. works good! (for now eeep!) long term i will get a 240volt transformer and sort it! Has anyone noticed that thier spare mags sticking and hard to put in? The one that came with the MP7 work fine but all the other ones seems to stick really hard. I have to slam it to get it into the magwell. i did notice this, but to solve it i just spent a few minutes practicing mag change drills, and it wore the mags in they still have a slight stiffness but it goes in now, i think the spare mags nhave a nicer sound to them also once they go in smoothly! Eotech looks too big for this gun! has anyone elses cocking handle spring stopped working? mine has, just doesnt spring any more, doesnt seem to affect it though! 5. Edited February 14, 2006 by Number5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KasrkinCK Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) Many thanks for the pictures, staticzero. I was curious as to what it would look like with the stock fully extracted. Makes it a little longer than I originally thought. It's now back on my "Maybe" list And that MP7 with the eotech is pretty darned sexy! Does anyone know if the vert grip can be removed? I'm not a fan of them at all Edited February 14, 2006 by KasrkinCK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Jebus Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 For all you lot with charger problems, have you by any chance checked your bathroom to see if you have 110v Shaver socket ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FUmiYAsu Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) For all you lot with charger problems, have you by any chance checked your bathroom to see if you have 110v Shaver socket ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> incase you haven't saw my post in the other mp7 thread, I've cut the wire of the charger and connected it to my logic charger.... and it worked... So no more crapy marui charger... this is surely a better solution since you get discharging, fast charging..etc with your normal charger... Edited February 14, 2006 by FUmiYAsu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey FarEast, and everyone else who's interested: You don't have to take the gun off of Safe to pull the charging handle back. There's a small lever right above the trigger that you push up which unlocks the charging handle. So here's to still being safe while adjusting hopup! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you talking about this switch? If so its a dummy switch and does absolutly nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FUmiYAsu Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey FarEast, and everyone else who's interested: You don't have to take the gun off of Safe to pull the charging handle back. There's a small lever right above the trigger that you push up which unlocks the charging handle. So here's to still being safe while adjusting hopup! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Surely tht's the bolt release for the real steel version and does nothing in the airsoft version... The point about the safety switch is that it is in the way of the ejection port, but NOT tht it stops the charging handle or anything. You do not need to press any switch or buttons to pull the charging handle back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EricthePincussion Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 For all you lot with charger problems, have you by any chance checked your bathroom to see if you have 110v Shaver socket ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aye aye aye, please don't try that. The pins on the charger are flat, whereas UK shavers have round pins...! Either adapt the charging leads to use standard chargers, or get a converter from Maplins (etc). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I fired a couple rounds today. Nothing like my M15 CQB (of course) but it's not too bad. Hopefully upgrades will come out soon though, because the FPS isn't to my liking. Also, has anyone else noticed that on semi, some shots fall flat of the mark, like its getting absolutely no compression? Full auto works like a charm though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scatter-shot Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Quick question, does the gun stop firing after your mag runs out of ammo? Probably not, but im curious due to its pistol-like design, it would be nice to have a cutoff feature like that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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