IronWolf Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 A few new GBB's coming out just in time for christmas WA - Wilson Combat FBI Trial Pistol: Its being released in Japan at the same time as TM's new AEP (December 15th). WA's motivation for releasing this particular model is that it won a popularity contest. The grip is die- cast, it uses newly designed hi capacity magazines (27+1 rnds), a dummy firing pin and version 2 transfer hammer system. - SCW/ SV Infininty Expert Pistol 4.3 inch: Same internally as the recently released 5 and 6 inch Expert models, though the barrel is now silver in colour (other variants are gold/ copper in colour) and the mag bumper looks a little smaller (imo) Marushin - COP 357 (extended barrel) released in early 2005. Its pretty much the same as the previous versions though the longer barrel (200mm) should make it more accurate (speculation) and no doubt makes it front heavy. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 More useless WA products... Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Wow. The few times WA actually release a gun with mechanical improvements and Antagon complains some more. I really look forward to the new transfer hammer system and the 27 round replica single stack mags. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Well, it's not made of pot metal and doesn't need a gas tank on your back! Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 How come everybody whines at TM for knocking out a milion and one M4s and MP5s and yet WA are worshipped like gods for producing one f*cking 1911 after another? Beyond that, does WA releasing a 1911 even qualify as "news"? Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Are they? I'd rather they made something different. EVEN a new Beretta would be nice! Whatever happened to the M93R? Was the KSC M93R II just too good to compete with? Beretta 9000 would be a good choice. Better yet would be a full size .45 calibre S&W automatic and I'm sure a few would LOVE to see a FN 5-7. Sadly, it seems the Japanese domestic market can't get ENOUGH 1911s, witness the TM Hi-Capa and the newly announced KSC STi! Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted December 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 does WA releasing a 1911 even qualify as "news"? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why not? Many collect more then one WA gun, they are of high quality, offer very realistic features and have full trademarks. Im still waiting for them to release an inifinity that suits my taste and look forward to every new release from them. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Are they? I'd rather they made something different.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok. Guilty as charged for making hasty generalisations. I think we'd both agree, however, that WA seem to get off very lightly for knocking out one 1911 after another whereas TM gets a much harder time (and rightly so, IMO) for milking the Armalite cash-cow for all it's worth. Am I the only one that thinks that WA is creating all these 1911s not out of some deep-rooted desire to create the ideal pistol for every airsofter in the world but, instead, because they can knock out hundreds of slightly different pistols without needing to re-tool and with minimum R&D or production expenses? Link to post Share on other sites
Redhawk Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 The COP 357 extended barrel is too freakish for me. I'll stick with my silver standard barrel and more true to the original version. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Well, it's not made of pot metal and doesn't need a gas tank on your back! Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ehhh *beep* you Its made of pot metal and plastic... Im not impressed, minimal improvements aside, I'd prefer they released a GOOD 6in Infinity, I'm not a big fan of the gold barrel, rail, and slide serrations on the so called "Expert". Hissing Sid, I agree completely. Link to post Share on other sites
michael_collins Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Im sick to the back teeth of WA 1911s. Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 The Wilson Combat FBI Trial Pistol looks so lovely, but so are most of the 1911 variants. As long as WA's making money with their 1911s, they'll keep making them. Just more choices for us to make when we want to buy one. I don't see why people complain about these companies making new guns (or well, ok, same gun with a different look). Do you complain because they are not making the guns you want/like instead? Or do you complain because it's getting more costly to collect all the 1911 GBBs? Link to post Share on other sites
maelstrom Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 well if you owned a company that manufactures airsoft guns would you try and make new guns that wouldn't make as much profit? or would you milk the low r&d and high profit guns? These guys are in it for the money, not to make every gun out there Personally my problem with it is choosing a 1911/variant because there's so many Link to post Share on other sites
Banzai Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 WA would be smart if they started making 5sevens, seems there is quite a bit of a demand for them Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 More interesting is the Arnie´s latest news about possible upcoming WA releases: the Springfield V10 and S&W SW1911. Not that I were interested in new 1911 pistols with merely "new" slide markings, but the rumour that WA would re-affiliate with S&W is definitely a fresh and welcome one! If you browse the WA website through, there´s absolutely no trace of their past S&W contract. Even the Sigma and Shorty .40 pistols have been deleted from the catalogue (or I´ve just been missing those in the website?). Would they really have re-acquired the S&W license? And Springfield Armory too? S&W offers a great lineup of different combat autos alongside their revolvers, at least I´m anxiously waiting for WA (or any viable manufacturer) to replicate some of those 3rd and 4th generation pistols into GBB format. Especially the 5900, 4000, 1000 and 4500 series, then again the newer "plastic" hitech pistols like Sigma (again) and SW99 are not-so-high on my wishlist... This would also increase the interest of S&W guns in Japan in the future! Edit: WA website URL added. Link to post Share on other sites
Connery Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Perhaps those that want a Five-seveN should e-mail one of the companies? Back on topic, how many 1911 varients has WA produced? 9 kajillion? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 It is kinda funny that WA finally start making pistols by someone other than Colt or Beretta, and they choose... a 1911 variant!!! Wow! Meh. And am I the only one who actually likes the look of the long-barelled Derringer? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Well now, that springfield is ALMOST impressive. Make a full size one, and it's mine. I love shooting the real thing....just don't love the 1000usd price tag. Link to post Share on other sites
dirty mao Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 oh wow, lool at that. a 1911. wait, what was that pistol they released a few months back? a 1911? oh yeah! don't get me wrong, i love 1911's, but we really don't need a million copies. eespecially since they're just the same models with different markings. though apparently this new one has some sort of whatever. i'll be impressed if WA makes a S&W 4506, and not before. Link to post Share on other sites
michael_collins Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I just want to see something that isnt a 1911, heck id even take a WA Glock. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I just want to see something that isnt a 1911, heck id even take a WA Glock. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Go hunt down an old WA Desert Eagle or Mac11...haha Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I was making the point that they actually made improvements this time. Had they released a rehashed infinity or some other thing, I would care less. But bashing them for new magazines and a new transfer hammer system because the improvements are still for a 1911 is just pointless. I'm not saying WA should keep releasing the same stuff in a different package, but this time, they actually did something. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 >> I'd prefer they released a GOOD 6in Infinity They did that years ago! Hybrid 6" or the Ltd. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 And am I the only one who actually likes the look of the long-barelled Derringer? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it looks really slick, better than the original. If you ignore the fact that the increased size defeats the very purpose of the Cop 357, it's an interesting piece. Still, in that size category, there are so many more practical alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites
Twitch Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but Tanio Koba are releasing a VP70M... smaller version of its big brother with a contoured grip. Link to post Share on other sites
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