Utty Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 HFC Desert Eagle Review Wassup. Time for another review, this time the unfortunate victim is the HFC Desert Eagle GBB, a ½ price copy of the TM DE Hardkick. First Impressions The gun comes in a nice looking metal gun case, and includes the gun (luckily), manual, and a free starter pack of BBs, wow what an unusual bonus. =p Picking the gun up, it's exactly like picking up the TM. Same weight, same materials, same finish, it's the same gun. Only real differences are the Spider Grips (the genuine HFC article), and the HFC trades instead of real-steel markings. Performance (Gas: propane. Ambient temp: 27 degrees C) FPS (0.2g mystery BBs): 1: 328.9 2: 326.3 3: 328.1 4: 327.4 5: 331.8 6: 327.2 7: 327.7 8: 326.7 9: 317.7 10: 320.3 Speaks for itself, really. Very impressive consistency overall. Gas capacity: It takes a while to fill the magazine, at least 6-8 seconds. The gun fires two whole mags' worth of BBs (2x26) before the gas runs out. When firing, the HFC DE often sprays quite some liquid gas back in your face from the cycling slide, and you can hear some fizzing and popping of liquid gas. I'm not sure why, maybe the hammer spring is too strong, or the piston O-ring doesn't provide enough seal in the cylinder - or it just needs some lube. Doesn't seem to affect performance, but some gas is wasted that way. Accuracy: Hmm. I used .20g ammo because .25g dropped too low off the point of aim at 5m range. Setting hop to full didn't help much. But with .20g, things aren't too bad. Maybe the hop just needs breaking in. In any case, the gun shoots well enough. Conclusion: Not exactly race gun accuracy out of the box, but otherwise the gun is great, and pretty much exactly like the TM. Unless you really need real steel markings, at ½ the price of the TM you can't really go wrong with the HFC Desert Eagle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Ooh, sounding tempting. I'm getting that Desert Eagle itch again. How does the kick compare to the TM Hard Kick on green? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Also, how does the compare with the other GBB's you've tried on green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Sledge, with the HFC, that all-too-familiar Desert Eagle itch is now quite inexpensive to scratch. I can definitely recommend it. The kick and every other aspect of shooting is the same as the TM. Loud report, fast and hard recoil, high powered boollets shredding the target. Davedawg, you mean the recoil? Compared to the other GBBs on green gas, it is hard. Personally I prefer the Hi-Capa style lightning fast but lighter recoil, but there ya go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Yeah, I meant the recoil/kick. Well it looks like the HFC is definitely an affordable option to those craving a hand cannon without the heavy price tag. Would you say the HFC DE is akin to the TM DE as the WE Hi-Capa is to the TM Hi-Capa? Better, worse, or the same? I'd really like a chrome DE, and the chrome HFC looks like the TM version, minus the chrome safety lever. Edited June 14, 2006 by davedawg123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 The HFC DE is to the TM DE what the TM Capa is to the TM Capa. Meaning, apart from superficial markings, it's the same gun, with same materials. No better, no worse. Actually the HFC DE has some advantages: taiwanese silent, non-leaking fill valve in the magazine, and a much firmer hop-up dial. My TM's dial had a nasty habit of turning itself down when shooting. There's a chrome HFC? Ya sure you're not getting the brands mixed up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Nice review - Good to see the HFC finally covered by a proper review, rather than the usual FUD that surrounds it. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 bear in mind you can get the TM DE (black) with trades. for 55.04GBP from GnG, so the price difference isnt quite as huge (especially considering orders from GnG never get charged, for me they dont anyway:) ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 HFC Deagle is £40.42 from GnG. So still a £15 saving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 HFC in chrome. There's more black parts on it than the TM version, but at about half the cost, I can't really complain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Gahh I never saw that before, UNCo and WGC don't have it. Features: Realistic Hard Feeling and Metalistic Gun Case Well, that's a bonus..?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Better than getting the usual polystyrene and card box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I'm getting confused. Does the "Hard Feeling" refer to: 1) the gun 2) the "metalistic" case, or 3) something else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well, I don't like to brag... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hard case as opposed to soft? But then who makes soft gun cases? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think it's referring to the metal case as opposed to the plastic case I got with my m190 hbc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think that friggin case is getting too much attention here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 What am best case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReaperBJJ Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Since it is supposed to be a clone of the TM DE, do you think it would be possible to put a Zeke metal slide and frame on it? I want my full metal handcannon but am on a budget right now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 since the slide and frame are the exact same dimensions, material, weight, etc.. I should think it would be compatible with anything that the TM is compatible with.. hbc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Since it is supposed to be a clone of the TM DE, do you think it would be possible to put a Zeke metal slide and frame on it? I want my full metal handcannon but am on a budget right now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, of course. Just let me warn you of the questionable fit, finish and quality of the Zeke set. It is usable, but requires considerable work. I'll prefer the stock plastic body any day. Until Shooters Design makes a DE kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I just ordered two of these [/salivating] hbc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I recieved my two DE's a couple of days ago, they've got really nice kick, but after all I'd heard about the design, it's about the same as my SVI, though I've been told they've got a helluva kick aswell. The only issue I have is that they seem to be made to lower tolerences.. i.e. the slide can be moves from side to side a little. Also, It doesn't feel as solid as the TM, when I held the TM it felt slightly heavier, as well as less plasticky to the touch. They do look frickin awesome though, saying that I probably couldn't hit a barn door if I pulled both of them out in the field.. just scare some people. hbc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xufima Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I bought one a few weeks ago and the hop-up was jammed all the way off, once I figured out how to open it all up and get to the hop-up I clicked the lever that the dial moves into place and now I have hop-up. Also if you over oil the gun then it sometimes loads two bb's/shoots a bb out the top/jams a bb in the slide causing it to spill all its gas. The over oiling problem I would imagine is on other guns also but this is my first GBB so I don't know. Overall this is an amazing gun for $70. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Yes, I don't find the TM/HFC DE recoil to be much harder than other hard-kicking guns - but it's also pretty hard to accurately gauge recoil force, as it very much depends on how you hold the gun, which gas is used, ambient temperature, and such. In any case, the gun kicks hard. The HFC is probably made of cheaper materials than the TM, but I found the finish to be much closer to the TM than I expected. Yes, the taiwan guns have much lower quality control than especially the TM guns, so you may end up with a badly assembled specimen - though it seems to be pretty unusual with HFC guns, compared to KJW for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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