Davey G Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 First off, thanks very much Catman for the detailed guide.. My trigger spring broke a week or so ago so I decided to buy a replacement and have a go at fitting it myself. All went fine, got the spring in place then started re-assembling the hammer/trigger housing.. as I was doing this (gently may I add) a piece snapped, I’m not entirely sure what it’s called I cant figure out what the name of it is from your instructions.. It’s this bit: The little part that sticks off the side has come away so it wont catch when the trigger is pulled.. Any idea where I’m going to find a replacement for it as I’m starting to get a little annoyed with the gun now. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 ouch That's a PITA! It's the sear and it locks the hammer into position and on the M190 Full auto part of it extends out of the sub-frame and connects with a part on the slide. Best thing to do would be to phone up airsoft shops and see if they've got that part lying around - shops that do repairs etc do quite often have junked guns lying about that they'll use for spares. Failing that try the HK companies. However I don't think you'd be able to use a TM version part as TM don't have a Full Auto version - well I suppose you could get one but then it'd only fire on semi. Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hello While attempting to fix my HFC M190 i accidently stripped the head on one of the screws that hold the body together. The screw would be part 41 in the HFC manual or part 92B-49 if you have a TM manual handy. Basically i need you to give the calibur/size of that screw mentioned above so i can buy a replacement. Thanks and +1's waiting Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Hello While attempting to fix my HFC M190 i accidently stripped the head on one of the screws that hold the body together. The screw would be part 41 in the HFC manual or part 92B-49 if you have a TM manual handy. Basically i need you to give the calibur/size of that screw mentioned above so i can buy a replacement. Thanks and +1's waiting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi i don't have an answer for you, but my problem is probably related to this. Yesterday i took the slide off just to drop some silicon oil into the trigger assembly, when i took the slide off a small screw came out so... I'm wandering if part 41 is a thin 12mm screw. (This was the only similar looking screw in the manual) Calcifer Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Hi i don't have an answer for you, but my problem is probably related to this. Yesterday i took the slide off just to drop some silicon oil into the trigger assembly, when i took the slide off a small screw came out so... I'm wandering if part 41 is a thin 12mm screw. (This was the only similar looking screw in the manual) Calcifer <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would doubt its part 41,as thats to far down to come out when taking off the slide. Show us picture? I belive its maybe the part beside part 43 in your manual. If you think its 12mm its far to big to be part 41 as part 41 is something like 2mm. Could it be part 72 by any chance? Pictures would seriously help alot. Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 My camera has no battery, and my phone wont focus on it here's a drawing of it. and yes part 72 is a possibility i just ruled it out under being to small. Ill have to open it up then. Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I'm afraid if part 72 is the part i have circled, it is not the screw i am talking about. pictures coming soon! Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 PICTURE! sorry still not good quality Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I think its one of the following Or maybe this your just going to have to start stripping the gun down and looking for where the screw goes Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 One of these, but i can't tell which one. What are they? Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Update: Ok i have taken it apart 3 times now! And i cannot find where this danmed screw goes... I'm starting to think that it's just a random screw from something else that got in the box somehow.... Link to post Share on other sites
uinscript Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 does it affect the performance? if it doesnt then dont think about i found me a screw like that size when im repairin but i couldnt careless because my gun still works Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 does it affect the performance? if it doesnt then dont think about i found me a screw like that size when im repairin but i couldnt careless because my gun still works <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, ill use 143a and then move up, just incase it decides to blow up Link to post Share on other sites
WeirdoTransvestite Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 One of these, but i can't tell which one. What are they? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whichever one of those two is missing from it's hole. Those screws are right next to their respective holes. Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 What does this spring do? And is it legal to import a real steel trigger spring to the UK? Link to post Share on other sites
WeirdoTransvestite Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Funnily enough, my gun works fine without it. With it, I run into problems. You're importing a spring, not the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 What does this spring do? And is it legal to import a real steel trigger spring to the UK? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IIRC it's for the valve striker - stops the striker being forward when it shouldn't - could potentially cause a fresh mag not to go in all the way in. You can buy a RS trigger spring for it in the UK, airsoftmart had them last I looked. Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 IIRC it's for the valve striker - stops the striker being forward when it shouldn't - could potentially cause a fresh mag not to go in all the way in. You can buy a RS trigger spring for it in the UK, airsoftmart had them last I looked. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The full auto on this gun doens't work. The guy i bought a gun said that one time he tried to take the gun apart to upgrade, but did it while it was on semi. So making a small piece connected to the fire selector broke. He says it's part #30 which is broken. (Fullauto version of part 30) Is that an accurate description? Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 The full auto on this gun doens't work. The guy i bought a gun said that one time he tried to take the gun apart to upgrade, but did it while it was on semi. So making a small piece connected to the fire selector broke. He says it's part #30 which is broken. (Fullauto version of part 30) Is that an accurate description? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whoops, did not mean to quote last guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Windibob Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Catman, when I bought my M190, that little pin in the safety was missing. Without your guide I wouldn't have known why my safety wasn't working properly. If you haven't already done something about it, funily enough, a pencil lead works just fine! +1 to you. Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Apologies for the "necropost", but I thought this might be of interest for those who have broken trigger springs King Arms M92F Spring Set for Marui / HFC / KJ Works You can thank me with cash, PM me for details Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Just to say: used this guide to repair an M190 the other night. First time taking the guts out of a Beretta frame, and this made it a lot simpler than it would have been. Great guide, many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Alright, finally got around to getting a proper Trigger Spring replacement. I got the King Arms replacement spring set: [WGC] [Redwolf] I had to refer to my own guide when I was putting this back together Hmmm how do I +1 myself? Heres a quick update on how the trigger spring should go in: The spring should sit like this in the frame: however it's a real f#$£er and doesn't like to stay like that. I found it best to worry about getting the spring in place when you have the frame together. So after you've got all the hammer, sear, etc parts in place put the frame together. Then put the two small screws in at the back. Do not fully tighten the top screw. Prise the frame apart at the front so there's a little gap: Now all you need to do is push the trigger spring up through the gap: Simply press the frame together do all the screws up Link to post Share on other sites
killamaniac Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hi, I was wondering if it's possible to get the oute barrel out for replacement without completely striping the slide. Link to post Share on other sites
TREMAN Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hi, I was wondering if it's possible to get the oute barrel out for replacement without completely striping the slide. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it is, you just have to take the slide off, then the recoil rod out and then you can get the outer barrel out too. Link to post Share on other sites
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