Chimpy Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 I'm saying its not him. They are joking because he has a lot of kit dude. Re-read the thread, it's painfully obvious. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 (edited) I know, I know. Sorry, I was just trying to be funny. Won't do it again. Edited July 27, 2006 by thatguy Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Err, yes, funny... Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 (edited) It was funny to me . Edited July 27, 2006 by thatguy Link to post Share on other sites
able95 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Must of been a bad batch then. They aren't supposed to do that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please post what you know. Not assumetions please. Thank You. Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Please post what you know. Not assumetions please. Thank You. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IR stands for Infrared. Light in those wavelengths is not visible to a regular camera or the human eye. Your turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 The green bit of the flag is always visible under normal lighting conditions from a reasonable distance. i.e. the entire thing is not just IR reflective. Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 The green bit of the flag is always visible under normal lighting conditions from a reasonable distance. i.e. the entire thing is not just IR reflective. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But they aren't normally that bright of a green. Link to post Share on other sites
TomaToNOR Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Here's a nice video of the HK 416: http://armedforcesjournal.com/blackwater/?s=2005_videos AND hkpro.com has just released their web page for the HK 416 as well: http://www.hkpro.com/hk416.htm Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 But they aren't normally that bright of a green. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dood really you need to research more. The IR US flag is a much brighter green than normal. Also as far as ACU wearing, USAF as well as USN were and are authorized to wear the ACU when working with the army. I have the USN ACU service ID tape to prove it. They chap in the photo is most liekly not regualr Army or forces, I would agree that he is most likely USAFSOC of some sort or Army SF. Hell he could possibly be a Delta operator..who knows. The only fact here is the likely hood of him being a foreign national is low, And someone mentioned the Canadians..yeah they are there, and in Asscrackerstan. And they were wearing the fricking CADPAT woody BDU's. Now they have Arid, but why in God's name would Canadian forces or any other wear our uniform? I readily admit I might be wrong and I am not boots on ground in the box right now so I am not THE authority, but I am AD and know a little bit. Go back to the lab young one and read a book, it will help out..ohh..and have a goodun- Link to post Share on other sites
Revelations Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I can't believe you're arguing about a flag. Can we all move on now? Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dood really you need to research more. The IR US flag is a much brighter green than normal. Also as far as ACU wearing, USAF as well as USN were and are authorized to wear the ACU when working with the army. I have the USN ACU service ID tape to prove it. They chap in the photo is most liekly not regualr Army or forces, I would agree that he is most likely USAFSOC of some sort or Army SF. Hell he could possibly be a Delta operator..who knows. The only fact here is the likely hood of him being a foreign national is low, And someone mentioned the Canadians..yeah they are there, and in Asscrackerstan. And they were wearing the fricking CADPAT woody BDU's. Now they have Arid, but why in God's name would Canadian forces or any other wear our uniform? I readily admit I might be wrong and I am not boots on ground in the box right now so I am not THE authority, but I am AD and know a little bit. Go back to the lab young one and read a book, it will help out..ohh..and have a goodun- <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A Canadian would wear a different uniform because their government has publicly said they won't send troops to Iraq. And no, the IR flag is not brighter green, I have one on several uniforms. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I have to disagree with this. I have seen Foreign soldier's (non NATO) in the US wearing our uniforms. There name is the same but the branch tag usually states what country they are from. Along with Rank on the left pocket for easy identification for us. Not all countries do this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At NORAD, the Canadian airmen wear Canadian uniforms. I have seen German soldiers in Canada wearing Flecktarn. In one of this Summer's Special Weapons for Military and Law Enforcement magazines there is a picture of a German MP in Arizona wearing Tropentarn. If you go to YouTube.com, you can find pictures of JGSDF troops training for MOUT in the US under USA instructors wearing Woodland while the JGSDF wear Nihontarn. Link to post Share on other sites
TomaToNOR Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 If you guys read the article posted in the hkpro.com link in my post above, you'll see that they state the following: "As this is being written I have learned that all the US Military’s top special operations units in JSOC will be fielding the HK416 as their primary carbine. All the key Units in JSOC chose the HK416 in preference to the current M4 and the FN SCAR Light which is still in development for the rest of SOCOM. It is very satisfying to me that units that could field any carbine they want choose the HK416. This tells me we have done our job, and have done it well." Most likely, the individual in question is indeed some sort of special operator, or possibly some sort of evaluator (testing the weapon in combat situations). My guess is as good as any, though... Link to post Share on other sites
able95 Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yes, far away from the flag issue. I just read in the Army Times this week that the FN SCAR was being fielded. This brings up conflicting points. Link to post Share on other sites
TomaToNOR Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Not so much conflict in that... The hkpro.com article states that JSOC chose to use the HK, while the SCAR is still underway for SOCOM troops Link to post Share on other sites
boosterboy Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) now, to correct the people who make false claims about selling their "H&K m4" or HK416 in the Arnie's swap meet. You guys know what I'm talking about, the people who think that by slapping on a Hurricane HK416D metal body kit with a damn A3 upper receiver, they magically get a "HK416" or the ones who like to argue that it HAS to have the H&K trades, even if it's not he correct H&K free float rails+H&K upper+H&K piston assembly. I can't even convince them that the real steel version only needs the H&K upper to be considered a HK416. Edited July 30, 2006 by boosterboy Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 now, to correct the people who make false claims about selling their "H&K m4" or HK416 in the Arnie's swap meet. You guys know what I'm talking about, the people who think that by slapping on a Hurricane HK416D metal body kit with a damn A3 upper receiver, they magically get a "HK416" or the ones who like to argue that it HAS to have the H&K trades, even if it's not he correct H&K free float rails+H&K upper+H&K piston assembly. I can't even convince them that the real steel version only needs the H&K upper to be considered a HK416. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only changes the are internals and a new magazine. So yes, it is all upper receiver. The external changes can be done to a regular m4. Link to post Share on other sites
able95 Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 At NORAD, the Canadian airmen wear Canadian uniforms. I have seen German soldiers in Canada wearing Flecktarn. In one of this Summer's Special Weapons for Military and Law Enforcement magazines there is a picture of a German MP in Arizona wearing Tropentarn. If you go to YouTube.com, you can find pictures of JGSDF troops training for MOUT in the US under USA instructors wearing Woodland while the JGSDF wear Nihontarn. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Again If you saw the the other then NATO which all countries mentioned are. Alot of 3rd world countries will use US uniforms while training while in the US. No Regular unit will wear another countries uniform in combat. Also Canadians are not in Iraq no matter what uniform they wear. Unless they are a member of the United States Military. Link to post Share on other sites
Tunershark Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 well the guy holding the 416 surely looks SF to me but thats just what i think, i could be wrong anyone know if thats a MICH hes wearing? with what looks like Velcro on the helmet cover Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Also Canadians are not in Iraq no matter what uniform they wear. Unless they are a member of the United States Military. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tell the Canadian prime minister that! http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2003...iers030327.html http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?s_name=&no_ads http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/2119 Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Again If you saw the the other then NATO which all countries mentioned are. Alot of 3rd world countries will use US uniforms while training while in the US. No Regular unit will wear another countries uniform in combat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Define "Regular" unit. Link to post Share on other sites
able95 Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 non-Specops=Regular. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 non-Specops=Regular. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I don't think you'd see the regular forces from two different nations involved in the same operations. Maybe one nation's regulars with anothers special forces, or specops with specops, but no reg-on-reg action. Link to post Share on other sites
Nodbugger Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Well, I don't think you'd see the regular forces from two different nations involved in the same operations. Maybe one nation's regulars with anothers special forces, or specops with specops, but no reg-on-reg action. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, you would in fact it is the most common thing you will see because well you won't see or hear about the Special Operations stuff. The regular stuff goes on all the time, you don't think England and Australia operate all their own military bases in Iraq do you? Link to post Share on other sites
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