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Oh they have one pretty cool thing, hand loading shells. got some one at range load 1 - 3 rounds in a shell, some guys at short range .. well interrupt and load it with a 6 - 10 round cloud maker. It was cool having a badonlier sling with 3 different types of shells on so that you could measure the situation and use the most appropriate round.

 

But jams cripple it all.

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Still, can't beat a good old pistol, nothing beats CQB with a pistol.

 

Unless pump action shotguns where really perfected, shell ejecting is too much and the Marushin / ACM ones just feel too weak / unreliable.

 

'FireKnife'

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Nice sotra classic, sorta modern SAS kit.

 

Much better than what Infinity Ward think the SAS look like when not in the usual CT stuff. :P

 

'FireKnife'

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Well mine unfortunately ends up getting me confused with the one from CoD4:MW1, stupid popular video games. :P

 

But still it is good fun to skirmish in.

 

'FireKnife'

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Who are these people that think CQB is NOT a specialist area!!! room to room fighting is very technical when done properly. I work for a company called U-Tag and we are ex-military and teach CQB. I also work at a CQB sight! I can tell you its one of the hardest things to learn and nothing like normal skirmish in woodland. Also a CQB set up is different. I run a shorter stock and barrel, a red dot at 45 to quick change from x3 optic and you have to use a torch [flashlight to you yanks].

I'd be happy to talk in depth about CQB, Slicing the pie, stacking up, room report, dance steps, FISH & CHIPS etc..... also load outs, drills....

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Ok, I finally have time.

First of all there are a few places that teach CQB, find one near you and give it a try. I work for one but not sure if I can advertise it here, i also work for a CQB site near Watford. At places like theses you will be able to hone your skills and become a bad mo-fo!!!!

Ok, slicing the pie.

Think of one side of a door frame as the center of a pie and your rifle as the radius. From being pressed against the wall you can pivot around this point using it as cover to almost a full 360. Make sure hour muzzle does not go beyond the frame in to line of sight or for someone to be able to grab it. For airsoft purposes I suggest putting rounds down constantly while moving round the door between chest and waist hight. This will increase your chance of hitting enemy that are standing or kneeling.

Try to have someone on your shoulder incase you get hit to Finnish the job.

If you need clarification on anything ill try and answer questions as soon as possable and ill try and get some pic, diagrams, video etc at some point.

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Dance steps.

This is my name for it. It was just how I remember it. It's quite simple, it's how to move through 90deg very fast for dynamic room entry.

If you want to go left one step with your right foot then your left step goes straight out at the 90 angle. You get a good sweep across your arch of fire but very quickly. Nail anything that's a target. This is just a good drill to avoid crossing your feet ( a big no no) and slowing you down and maintaining a stable platform. Also you won't fall over if you move to fast (seen that, proper funny). Obviously the opposite to turn right.

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The way I explain Slicing the Pie to people is that it's like the scene from Star Wars Ep IV, where the Death Star is slowly moving around the planet Yavin - The Death Star doesn't magically appear in full view, it slowly reveals itself and thus slowly reveals a portion of its target each time.

 

Applied to a CQB sense, this means you're taking one step at a time so you reveal a portion of the room at each step. This allows you to clear a bit of the room each time. It's a lot safer than just entering the room, as then you've exposed yourself to the entire room, meaning everyone can see you.

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The issue with slicing the pie is you need to be entering a room that is either quiet or one that you know you wont have heavy fire coming from as it is easy to focus on slicing the pie then getting a hail of shots from someone as you focused too much on slicing the pie and not enough on the actual threat. It is amazing how many people focus on the technique and leave themselves open to getting shot at.

 

'FireKnife'

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The issue with slicing the pie is you need to be entering a room that is either quiet or one that you know you wont have heavy fire coming from as it is easy to focus on slicing the pie then getting a hail of shots from someone as you focused too much on slicing the pie and not enough on the actual threat. It is amazing how many people focus on the technique and leave themselves open to getting shot at.

 

'FireKnife'

 

Very true, it's important to remember that it's mostly just a 'Remember not to *fruitcage* charge in the room like a berk' technique. As long as it teaches you to take it slow, it's fine.

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True, many get worked up in this whole 'what is the technique to use here, what do I do' but then really a good technique is one that you should switch to when you need it.

 

I know that when moving around a room I am in a Weaver style stance that I have moulded to fit me, when I am up close or in a small room I go to Centre Axis Relock, without even thinking past a split second. Same as a slide lock gets an automatic reload out of me and an automatic rack of the slide. It is worrying but you know that it means when someone does charge at you, your response is not a flinch but a reaction.

 

'FireKnife'

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There are issues with all techniques, there is no technique that stops you getting shot ( apart from corner shot, grenades or an air strike) but you can reduce the chance and give yourself a better chance. As for choice of technique I say just pick one and get on with it in a decisive way. Loss of momentum is never good.

Thanks for the posts, I like talking about this stuff.

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Halloween game! Indoor CQB, pretty tight corners. My G36c suddenly decided at the beginning of the day that it wouldn't stop double feeding, so I had to run pistol only. Still did quite well thanks to it being dark as hell and very, very close in. :D

 

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Any sites or resources that are recommended to bring a beginner up to speed on the basics?

 

Give me a shout when we are there at the 9th Dec, just following us around might give you a few hints :P

 

But most of my stuff I learned from looking at videos of techniques then just adapting them and modifying them to fit airsoft needs (like trying central axis relock last night, damn it is quick shooting for up close, yet still can be accurate).

 

'FireKnife'

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