Isamu Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Cant recognice the BB system? is it guarder? :? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 what the hell?!?!? that doesnt look like a guarder system! if it's a TM clone i'll cream, and i'm not even kidding there! then after buying new jeans i'll buy 50 of them. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I think it's a King Arms clone, actually. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 i thought they used a guarder style system? just wondered if it was TM as their recoil mech takes up all the space under the receiver too. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Not that I know of. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 http://www.kicbbgun.com.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10242 check out the pics of the TM's recoil mech there. looks the same on the cyma just with a full shroud over it (i cant see ANY other reason for that to be there) and the return spring for the bolt is in the same place. lets hope they cram this in an AKM before TM call their lawyers (if it is in fact a clone)... or even better, lets hope cyma used some innovation to get around TM's pesky patents. Link to post Share on other sites
leon_london Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Are any of the HK sites selling the AK47 blowback yet? I thought you would of been out on WGC and RSOV ect before there selling them in the philippines? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Are any of the HK sites selling the AK47 blowback yet? I thought you would of been out on WGC and RSOV ect before there selling them in the philippines? lately HK shops have been really late with goods, i dunno if they have recession also because many european shops have goods before them, and filippines seems to have goods first these days, they must have some good connections because i also have been seen , all new gear go to filippines first before elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 http://www.kicbbgun.com.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10242 check out the pics of the TM's recoil mech there. looks the same on the cyma just with a full shroud over it (i cant see ANY other reason for that to be there) and the return spring for the bolt is in the same place. lets hope they cram this in an AKM before TM call their lawyers (if it is in fact a clone)... or even better, lets hope cyma used some innovation to get around TM's pesky patents. factory said originally like i posted here that they clone TM blowback system but i havent seen personally one so cannot say anything to that, lets hope atleast that is a quality one as no reviews anywhere yet. Link to post Share on other sites
leon_london Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Well if I can find one to buy I'll try to do a review I know a guy at my local site with the TM version, so they will be easy to compare. Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 It has to be a modified TM system for several reasons. Regular style AK hop-up unit, the new TM style was shorter to accomidate slightly longer mechbox. Regular style AK pistol grip. TM's new blockback ak's had a modified pistol grip angel. Maybe a hybrid of the two? In that case it could also retain the regular v2/v3 gears. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 AND, one of the most important features, it takes regular AK mags, not the new über expensive Marui AK74MN magazines... YAY!!! Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 AND, one of the most important features, it takes regular AK mags, not the new über expensive Marui AK74MN magazines... YAY!!! Yeah, what I meant by "regular hop-up". Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yeah, what I meant by "regular hop-up". The new hopup shouldnt change the magazine, Marui changed mags to introduce a design which would keep BBs on the mag when you change it, which is something I really dont think is enough to renovate all my mags Anyway, its a good thing to see chinese manufactures improving and innovating their designs, but its bad they didnt release an AK105... patience, I think BTW: is that new Blow back AK made of pot metal or steel? Link to post Share on other sites
Alakdan101 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread...8080&page=2 Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 it's a TM clone then gents! so buying 2, just to bin the externals and dump the GBs in my VFCs Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Mmmm, theres a video on that thread and doesnt look like a Marui blow back... quite light and sometimes it doesnt go backwards fully, but at least it doesnt stop midway and we can use normal magazines... Waiting for a 105 Video: Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 TM dont blow back all the way, it's impossible. it does however always return fully (which this does). TM's blowback also doesnt look too strong on videos (hell, even escort guns dont look that hard kicking), that and the TM doesnt kick that much Link to post Share on other sites
Kaworu Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Out of nowhere... (seen in Airsoft Brasil foruns) JG SR25 URX with fixed stock... http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3465 See ya! []'s Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 soooo, any news on when this blowback AK might be hitting HK stores? Link to post Share on other sites
Diego4112 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I´m about to cry like a baby! A Galil and a Tavor! all by CYMA!! can barely hold my tears of rejoice... if only there would be a clone/AEG Garand, my joy would be endless! Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 A CYMA Tavor? Galil was supposed to be made by Boyi and the Cybergun Tavor is, as the guy from AATV said, an ARES job. Also, Cyma got raided, losing several molds in the process (no more M14, Thompson or Glock, at least for the time being). Link to post Share on other sites
Abelius Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 At least the CG Galil I fondled had a CYMA mechbox. Link to post Share on other sites
apmaman Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Tavor looks great. I love its spring swapping ability and the fact it uses M4 mags. Will be getting one of these for CQB me thinks. Also who will be releasing the Cybergun co2 pistols? I've always wanted a co2 pistol but I hated the overly large mags. Hopefully it takes off and more models get made with those co2 mags. Never understood why all GBB's werent co2 but hey. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Tavor looks great. I love its spring swapping ability and the fact it uses M4 mags. That does sound like an Ares to me. Yet Cybergun speaks of a price of 250EUR, which is low considering the Thompson they sold was an ACM, and wasn't cheap. Link to post Share on other sites
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