happy.al Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Yeah, sorry misunderstood. Post a pic when you get it, the world need to see more gun porn Link to post Share on other sites
Hellfire8 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I will if i can find one, would a real steal box mag fit? Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 You dont use a metal mag in the field. The metal ones are for the chopper/vehicle mounted M60's in the field you use mag pouches like the one happy.al linked to. Link to post Share on other sites
Hellfire8 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 i know, i still want one, just for the coolness and uniqueness. Link to post Share on other sites
triggerhappy16 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hi, i am new-ish to the support gun role, i have just picked me up a TOP M60 DX with upgrades and box mag conversion. Am very pleased with it so far, even though i only done about 200rds of testing. I am going to use it for the first time on the 22nd and am expecting good things... Just been browsing the thread and have seen very little about the M60's compared to the 249's. Why is it that the 249's seem to be so popular. They are the BMW of support weapons (like chavs, everywhere) imo. Only problems i have with my M60 are that the carry handle seems very loose and wobbley, it this the case with all as it is only held steady with the 2 pins? The other is cosmetic in that the inerts from the gun to the box mag, only 1 round is visible, and not very visible at that. How do you guys do it? Trig Link to post Share on other sites
ardrummer292 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hey guys. I'm an aspiring support gunner and I've got a couple questions for ya. 1. Which would be lighter (fully loaded): a CA249-P w/solid stock and Aimpoint, or VFC MK43? 2. Is VFC's gearbox design vastly more durable than the CA249's? I've loved the MK43 for longer than I can remember, but I'm not sure how effective a mid-low ROF (600-700 rpm) GPMG with higher fps and heavier bbs would be, as compared to a higher ROF (about 900 rpm) SAW with lower fps. On top of that, I'm not the most "buff" fellow around, so lighter is better. Thanks for your help! Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Havnt handled a fulle loaded CA249, but I think they are pretty close. The MK43 may be a little heavier(because of the extra ammo, 4000 rounds more then a 249 gives some extra weight) Havnt looked that much at the VFC gearbox, but what I can say is that it is very nicely designed, regarding functions like the autowinding box mag there are no wires hanging around, all is stuck inside the gearbox. If you like the MK43 the choice is easy Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 i know, i still want one, just for the coolness and uniqueness. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, you will probobly have to modify the gun a bit. And I doubt you will be able to move around with it, seeing the box is big, heavy and not designed at all for field use. But if you have a vehicle to use in-game, it would look sweet! Link to post Share on other sites
Hellfire8 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Well, you will probobly have to modify the gun a bit. And I doubt you will be able to move around with it, seeing the box is big, heavy and not designed at all for field use. But if you have a vehicle to use in-game, it would look sweet! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well i am getting a 7.62 box and we'll see, if not it'd be cool for photos so Hmmm, All i need to do is convince our site leader to buy a heuey Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 well i am getting a 7.62 box and we'll see, if not it'd be cool for photos so Hmmm, All i need to do is convince our site leader to buy a heuey <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, it will look sweet in photos But the huey sounds like a better idea Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 i know i keep asking about support weapons but i cant choose (i want them all lol) Some questions about the STAR m249, which battery should i use 8.4v or 9.6v, WGC recomends a 8.4 but wouldnt a 9.6 would give a higher ROF will the STAR take STANAG mags aswell as the Box mag (ca249) do they sell their guns for less than other retailers in the ca shop in hk because a ca249 may be better but it doesnt come with a box mag problem is its *fruitcage* expensive Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 A 9.6v would give higher ROF but more wear on internals. The STAR does not take STANAG mags. Link to post Share on other sites
ardrummer292 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 If you like the MK43 the choice is easy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was thinking that higher ROF = more effective suppression. I do like the Mk43, but I thought a 900rpm M60 would be a little wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Dammm star and them not selling their M249's in the hard case anymore that was a good selling point too and now they just come in a cardboard box and the price is the same !! Link to post Share on other sites
ardrummer292 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 That, and a plastic SAW is just wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 but affordable Link to post Share on other sites
xerxes Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Thanks for linking to my box mag thread happy.al, good to see it's proving useful! triggerhappy16, two ways to get more rounds showing between the box mag and the '60, once it's all attached up pull the box mag away from the '60 slightly, this should expose around three rounds. If that's not enough, chop a section out of the top of the box mag, a la LBT box mag on the HK43. M249s are very popular as up until now they have been easier to get hold of in a working format out of the box, and in the case of STAR versions pretty affordable. That coupled with the fact that they are seeing heavy use in operational theatres at the moment as opposed to '60s / GPMG style firearms means more people are interested in them, I guess. Plus the fact they are easier to carry than most '60s! Hellfire8, why on earth would you want a TOP M60 feeding from the feeding tray? What happens when you want to fire downward past eighty-nine degrees? Link to post Share on other sites
Hellfire8 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 i dunno, i've never used a top m60, not even got mine yet, its getting new gears. Link to post Share on other sites
xerxes Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Do a bit of searching on the forums... You'll find plenty of reasons why you'll want to build a custom feed system for your M60! Main ones being the fact your ammo wont feed if the gun is pointing downhill, and the ammo capacity on the feed tray is only around twelve hundred rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
happy.al Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hi Xerxes, That thread was very useful to me so I thought that I would share it, hope you don't mind Link to post Share on other sites
xerxes Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 See four posts up, first sentence! No worries dude. Link to post Share on other sites
Deathbringer Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hey all, I'm new to the support role. I'm wondering a few things about the Star M249. Firstly, does it come with all three of the gearboxes? Second, where can I buy the ones it doesn't come with. Next, how is the stock ROF on each of them? And finally, would I be able to switch out the motor in one of those gearboxes to a Systema highspeed one? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Nope it only comes with the standard 328 fps one. You cant buy the others yet. Stock ROF is reasonable 900rpm or so. And I dont see why you wouldnt be able to change the motor. Link to post Share on other sites
Deathbringer Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 900 RPM eh, thats fine for now, but to get that ROF up, do you have to buy specifically made parts for the 249, or do standard parts work. Also, is there anyplace that sells the standard 328 FPS M249 gearbox? Link to post Share on other sites
Hellfire8 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 she arrived with a broken flash hider, but since I paid £230 and he put brand new set of reinforced gears, I am happy. OMG im so happy heehee I test fired her, I think it went well now for teh porn, Pregnant women with M60's haha, ok not porn but still funny. she looks psychotic Now shes posing on her own. Link to post Share on other sites
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