c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thank you. Although its more of a sub machine gun than a pistol don't u think? A machine pistol would be something like a full-auto glock? Ah well... it is what it is! Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yea, but the UMG is a make of the real steel UMP which stands for Universal Machine Pistol. The UMG is G&G's way of getting out of trade mark and names... Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Clever! lol! Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yeah I guess so Im just used to calling them Machine Pistols. Anyway I think this PPSH is the ultimate CQB gun. http://www.classicairsoft.net/Articles/PPSH/index.htm Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Very nice!! Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 too bad it isn't massed produced (like the real thing!!!) Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yeah I wish someone was making an AEG version. Soldiers using RS PPSH41s in Iraq in CQB situations... Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 probably found a weapon cache and jacked them... Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 They are actually using those? I thought it looked like a WWII gun?!? Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 probably found a weapon cache and jacked them... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would if I found a cache of those. My WWII Unit has two of them and a PPS43 too. They're awesome for close combat. They are actually using those? I thought it looked like a WWII gun?!? Yeah they are WWII guns. And theyve been used in every war since then. (All those involving communists or communist allies atleast.) Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I guess they have stood the test of time! Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 right... Russian flooded the world with thier weapons, and now everyone has one... Link to post Share on other sites
Dentonboy Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Who are the best soldiers in the world? The SAS. What have they used since the 70's for CQB? The MP5. That is good enough for me. The M4 is just a little too bulky in comparison for me. But each to their own. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Who are the best soldiers in the world? The USN SEALS. What have they used since the 70's for CQB? The MP5. That is good enough for me. The M4 is just a little too bulky in comparison for me. But each to their own. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There I corrected it for you... Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 a gun magazine did an article on which was a better CQB weapon, the M4 or MP5, the M4 won even though it had reliability issues. However, HK "fixed" the M4 with their new HK416 HA!!! Edit: I think that the SAS is better than USN SEALS, a lot of their missions now days are like protecting VIPs, and a lot of SEAL trained ppl are going to private security forces like Blackwater Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 This is weird, but I am going to agree with Dentonboy! I wonder why?! ... 22 reg kick *albatross*!! lol Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 H&K ftw. Been saying it all day. Then FN. Then Colt. In that order. Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 yea, I think you got it nailed down... Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Although there is also Kalashnikov (oh yeah! spelt it right first time!) Link to post Share on other sites
Dentonboy Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 SEALs better than the SAS?! NO. WAY. EVER. AT ALL. SAS would kick Delta, Green Beret, SEAL's, Spetsnaz, any 'elite' troops any time, any place. The SAS are the benchmark, the rest are playing catch-up. Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Couldn't have put that better myself! Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 SAS better than the SEALS?! NO. WAY. EVER. AT ALL. SEALS would kick Delta, Green Beret, SAS's, Spetsnaz, any 'elite' troops any time, any place. The SEALs are the benchmark, the rest are playing catch-up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dude I'm tired of fixing this stuff. JK JK. Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 It would be intersting to know why the SEALs would be up against Deltas?! lol! Link to post Share on other sites
Dentonboy Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 The 'Ultimate Force' depiction of the SAS did them no favours! But it makes me proud to be British when I read about the balls those guys have when it comes to snap calls. But I guess the SAS are free'er to deploy, they live off the land. SEAL's and Delta need to know if there is gonna be fresh loo roll and McDonald's before they head out.....!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 It would be intersting to know why the SEALs would be up against Deltas?! lol! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lol yeah. I just looked for SAS and Changed it.... SEAL's and Delta need to know if there is gonna be fresh loo roll and McDonald's before they head out.....!!!!! Or Not... Link to post Share on other sites
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