Bob the Angry Potato Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Review- Western Arms Cougar M8045 Inox Rating- 9/10 This review’s going to be tipped a little off-course, as this gun has been used before I bought it (however well maintained), and it has had a Flow Restrictor installed. For all you 134A users out there- sorry When the gun first arrived, it was great- it looked and felt amazing. So, my first instinct was simple- take the *beep* apart. The gun takes apart like a regular Beretta- you press a button on the right-hand part of the frame, and rotate a catch. Unlike the conventional 9mm Beretta, though, this only rotates about 45 degrees before stopping, after that you’re able to take the slide off, no problem, by pulling the entire thing forward. Once this is off- this is the odd bit- it’s nothing like the conventional Beretta. The barrel is completely internal and the slide isn’t open, and there’s a 2-piece assembly- the recoil spring and block, and the barrel and the rest of the slide. It’s a bit of a pain to put them back together (the first time), but after doing it twice, you could do it with your eyes closed. How to take the barrel and mechanism out, I have no idea. It’s very well put together, and there’s no hint of any way- my gun didn’t come with a manual, so that’d probably explain it. Snowman can do it, though, so I’m sure there’s a way. As for the frame, this is the main similarity to the Beretta (the slide reeks of Hi-Capa or 1911, mainly because it’s a .45). The frame’s built in generic Beretta style, except for the much bigger grips (not for the small handed, definitely) and small differences here and there. The black plastic grips, emblazoned with the Beretta logo on the center of either side, will come off via 2 screws in each one (which use an ordinary Philips head, or a dime, whichever’s on hand). Upon putting the gun back together (the rotating barrel function’s neat, it only rotates a bit but it’s pretty nice). As for aesthetics, the finish is amazing- it’s showpiece quality. Mine has some minor (and a few major, on the frame) scratches from years of circulation and use. As for accuracy- it’s pretty accurate, and on Propane, it’s pretty powerful. I have no tool to adjust the HopUp (it comes with a tiny hex key for that, which mine didn’t have), but the last people who had it seemed to have done that. I’m guessing the velocity’s over 310. Seems that way to me, at least- grouping pictures should be up soon. The gun has KICK to it. Seriously, more then hard-kick or metal guns- each shot, I can see the barrel shoot up for a second in front of my hand. It’s a joy to shoot- even though I bought the non heavyweight Inox version, this gun doesn’t hold back. Other functions this has is a working decocker and a gas transfer system (you can decock the gun by pulling the trigger, and pushing the hammer forward slowly with your thumb), which I find useful as hell. On the downsides, The mags, at least for me, were a bit leaky. This has been since remedied by soaking the inlet valves in silicone oil, and storing the mags ¼ full. However, I’m using Propane- with 134A, I’m sure there’s no problem. This gun WILL get at least a bit scratched up in harsh conditions- if you’re going to be running around in skirmish conditions with it, I advise you be careful. Outside, it’s built like a tank- I doubt any (if not some) dirt will get in, there’s very few gaps for it to. But if you’re using it as primarily a showpiece- go for it. I, personally, don’t mind the scratches- but that’s just me. The gun looks and feels metal- it fooled one of the last owners, who had no idea if it was or not until telling Airsoft Canada members the markings on the slide and frame of the gun. Feeling it myself, it weighs just as much or more then pot-metal guns you find around. With the mag in, it weighs (at least, it feels like) more then my full metal HFC M190! Overall, I can’t recommend this gun enough. Collector or skirmisher, this gun is the perfect balance between the two- first skrim I do with mine’ll be on the 31st, I’ll have an after-action report for you guys after. Cheers, Nate Link to post Share on other sites
soadrocker856 Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Ah yes, the wonders of the Magna blowback system. I am getting my WA M92FS in the next 2 weeks. Good job with yours! However, I suggest some pictures. Link to post Share on other sites
Bob the Angry Potato Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Done and done. They just gotta upload, they'll be on the site within the day. Link to post Share on other sites
jimel Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Nice. Is the mag silver? I am getting my scw cougar next week. Edited September 21, 2006 by jimel Link to post Share on other sites
Bob the Angry Potato Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Yep. Well, I got the silver version, so the mag's a nice silver sheen- however, that mag's just for show (I stole the parts from it to fix my other black mag). For skrims, 2 black mags are what I use. You're getting an SCW Cougar, so the mags would be black (as the gun is, too). Now, for pictures- Edited September 21, 2006 by Bob the Angry Potato Link to post Share on other sites
soadrocker856 Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Secksy! Link to post Share on other sites
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Titleist Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I owned one of the original 8045s, like back in 2002, and it was awesome. It always struck me as odd why no one ever released a metal kit for it. I loved that gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I wonder how similar they are in comparison to the KSC versions. I had my hands on even the cheap/nasty KJW version on Saturday.. and heck. that was quite a novel wee thing. Hope you carry on enjoying your M8045 Link to post Share on other sites
Bob the Angry Potato Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Indeed, thanks. I'm enjoying every minute of it. Looking back on this thread, I see there's an unrelated picture of a Diet Coke bottle rocketing up, I think I got the URL wrong for the picture I was supposed to post. Sorry Mag leaks have been fixed, turned out it was a painfully obvious solution that had nothing to do with either the fill valves or O-rings. It's too late to edit, so I'll post the picture I MEANT to post here. As per the metal kit- yeah, I'm sad noone ever made one. I heard rumours of a Zekeone, but that may have been for the KSC. However, it feels metal enough, and even this (the non-HW version) has a nice heft to it- with the mag in, it weighs about the same as my full metal HFC M190, which is even bigger then it. Also, it's the only Beretta that can take a flow restrictor so that it can use Propane without any problems. How they are compared to KSC version? 'Fraid I've never even seen one in person. However, if you ask Snowman nicely, he may do you the honours. Hell, he has an affinity for Cougars, probably due to one of his best GBBs ever was one (he admitted it was one of his very best), which was actually what prompted me to buy mine. Link to post Share on other sites
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