Fuser Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Render... Can you move that site back one notch? If you can, move it back, it will fit. My real steel troy site doesnt fit unless its on the rearmost notch on my G&P upper reciever. I believe the sites are designed that way. They're supposed to be mounted back as far as possible, almost completly perpendicular and paralell with the charging handle. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Trust me, I've taken it on and off many times. It is mounted as far back as it can be. I'm just not going to use it atm, but thanks for the help everyone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've seen pics and it does seem like it should be back further, but that is simply the last notch on my guns receiver. That's one reason why I think it might be the receiver's fault a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Ok, if thats the last notch on your reciever then yes, there definately is a problem with CA brand recievers. Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 CA should just scrap their current receivers, take a G&P receiver, and reverse-engineer it from that point forward and switch to an anodized finish. Like I said a few pages back, ITT: CA fails hard. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just get a real Troy battle sight or a real ARMS #40. Infact, I need a new rear sight aswell...... Link to post Share on other sites
1cem4n Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 oh you have a CA? yeah. CA recievers are pretty bad. they're way off compared to the real thing. if you can, get either a G&P or Guarder New-Gen. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobbcore11 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 If you do decide to get the real deal I might take the sight off your hands. But best of luck getting it to fit/ Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Guarder New-Gen. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seriously considering that. If you do decide to get the real deal I might take the sight off your hands. But best of luck getting it to fit/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll PM you if I do put it up for sale. The sight is mint, its just my receiver I guess Link to post Share on other sites
MERCILESSPIT Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Got a few new pics. These link to 1600 x 1200 images: Link to post Share on other sites
BARsrule2 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just get a real Troy battle sight or a real ARMS #40. Infact, I need a new rear sight aswell...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lol, 70+ bucks for a BUIS on an airsoft gun is a bit much (usually). Render, I have the Samurai #40 ARMS replica and I have no complaints. On certain receivers it wobbles a bit, shimming with electrical tape on the underneath solves it though. It's built well. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 @ MERCILESSPIT Nice pics, is that a clone/replica Aimpoint? If so mine is arriving soon as well Looks good. Render, I have the Samurai #40 ARMS replica and I have no complaints. On certain receivers it wobbles a bit, shimming with electrical tape on the underneath solves it though. It's built well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the suggestion. Who manufactures the receiver on which you mount it? Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) The problem is not with a CA receiver or any other receiver, it is the sight. You can clearly see by comparing Renders side-on pic and the real steel pic below that the KA sight arm is much deeper and more bulbous, so preventing the sight arm from lying flat. Render: http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n221/res0290/IMG_1692.jpg Troy: http://www.troyind.com/shop/images/dateillowered01400.jpg Edited July 8, 2007 by Tommygunn Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 You have a point there... but CA's receivers are still pretty bad, you have to admit. MERCILESSPIT- I like the simple look of your M16A4. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Only from the point of view that the actual rail is higher than all other rails and of course real steel. That is why CA, from CQBR onwards, in their wisdom, decided to also mess up their current run of RAS and raise the top rail so that it is non real steel spec so that it matches their upper receiver rail. The actual rail itself is fine, as far as airsoft goes. It is the sight which is at fault. Edited July 8, 2007 by Tommygunn Link to post Share on other sites
scooberoo Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I see the problem now. It's the upper body. When you study the rail just above the charging handle,the rail is supposed to end at some point it was wrong. It's hard to point without drawing on the pic, but someone will get the idea. G&P, Guarder, Hurricane, they are all different. If you look at Star and Systema PTW, they are similar to the real gun. Solution, carve out the rail on the metal body that is preventing the sight from laying flat. The body's wrong hehehehehehe. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Scoob, you sure? I've just been having a gander and comparing Hurricane to CA on WGC and they both have the same number of rail lands and grooves and the rear of the rail of each looks the same. Both have the rail 'edges' sliced away on the back 3/4 inch. Edited July 8, 2007 by Tommygunn Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Yeah, scooberoo's right. The back of the rail is supposed to gently curve into the rest of the upper receiver, not abruptly stop. That's where the problem lies. Edited July 8, 2007 by TheKurodaVagrant Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Solution, carve out the rail on the metal body that is preventing the sight from laying flat. The body's wrong hehehehehehe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hells no I'll just go BUIS-less until I get a new metal body. edit Honestly I can see where everyone is coming from. IMO it is not only the fault of KA or only the fault of CA. I think the BUIS's design is flawed and the receiver's design is flawed. Edited July 8, 2007 by Render Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Here's a pic of a CA on the left and G&P on the right and I can't see what difference there is apart very minor, unimportant details. Any gentle, concaved curving belongs to the HK416 upper receiver, not the generic AR series. Edited July 8, 2007 by Tommygunn Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 It still looks more scalloped on the G&P, but that would only get the sight down the slightest bit further. Gotta love odd dimensions. Link to post Share on other sites
MERCILESSPIT Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 @ MERCILESSPIT Nice pics, is that a clone/replica Aimpoint? If so mine is arriving soon as well Looks good. Thanks for the suggestion. Who manufactures the receiver on which you mount it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, that's a real AP CompM2 4MOA that I bought off of a friend of mine that was tired of it and bought an Eotech. It's normally on my M&P 15 but I had to use it for these pics as I don't know when I'll get more. I wont tell you how cheap I got it for, you guys would hunt me down, LOL. You have a point there... but CA's receivers are still pretty bad, you have to admit. MERCILESSPIT- I like the simple look of your M16A4. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you! I'm definitely trying to stay simple with any configuration I use Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 TheKurodaVagrant, What is scolloped? The top of the rail is flat on all AR's. Link to post Share on other sites
srpg Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just for reference so everyone can see...Here are the pics of the Guarder/G&P/CA upper receivers. they are all flat along the top..... Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Hm, that puts things in perspective pretty well. Thanks srpg! Tommygunn- I meant the back side where the rail slopes into the rest of the receiver near the charging handle. It seems that CA is alright on that from these photos... Edited July 8, 2007 by TheKurodaVagrant Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yeah, very helpful thank you! Link to post Share on other sites
snipe Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 the other problem with CA receivers are the threads for delta rings are different from Guarder...I tried to put a CA SR15 front end on my Guarder body and it wouldnt even begin to screw on Link to post Share on other sites
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