FW200 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 One slight comment, the lower handguard you have is from an Ak47 and not from an AKM For the rest it's looking quite nice Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Need to try and change the gas system to an AKM model for it to get to the No1 spot, otherwise your nearly there. Link to post Share on other sites
Fade Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 i thought i would post some pictures of my latest project. it's a ca 105 converted into a AKM its still a bit off from finishing but i'm nearly there. It has a real steel stock and lower foregrip and just needs a upper foregrip to complete that part. I will probably spray paint the front parts to colour match and the pistol grip needs a little something. I'm not sure of the colour. the camera makes it look brighter than it is. Looks like a nice project gun. I'd either dye the pistol grip or get a new one. Keep us updated and good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 a few more bits done. I repainted the pistol grip and added a AKM type gas block. now i need to find a upper fore grip (or maybe make one) the bottom foregrip was actually taken from an AKM so i might stick with it. Link to post Share on other sites
jonboy2312 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) the bottom foregrip was actually taken from an AKM so i might stick with it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It couldn't have been taken from an AKM... unless it was a field repair of sorts using older parts. All the wood on that gun is AK-47 wood, looks fifties - solid wood, not plywood... from the sixties onwards Polish AKs had plywood furniture of the same shape as the old solid wood furniture such as yours, until they were replaced by AKMs with completly new furniture of different design. I'm not sure about AKs from other countries... Either way, this is fifties AK, not AKM, furniture there... AKM furniture is made of laminate plywood, has a different angled stock, grip-enhancing bulges on the sides of the lower handguard, and no metal reinforcement on the back of the lower handguard. That's an AK-74 gas block there! No AKM ever had a 90-degree gas block. In fact, early AK-74s started with a 45-degree gas block, inherited from AKM (verify here: http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/variants.html ) In my old AKMSN conversion, I simply grinded the sling mount section off from an AK (CM 028) gas block, making a pretty good likeness of an AKM block. Seriously... an AK-74 part simply doesn't work... and it clashes real bad with the furniture (not just one, but TWO generations apart! Three, if you count the "straight" and "broken" variations of AKM gas blocks as two separate generations... ). Don't get me wrong, the gun looks great, but it doesn't work as a replica of any particular model... Go back to the AK gas block, just alter it like I said. If you need pics of what I did, just tell me and I'll post them EDIT: I've just realized that the lower handguard you have there is INDEED made of laminate plywood! But it's still not an AKM part - laminate AK furniture was made in in the sixties, just before AKM was adopted... Edited December 15, 2006 by jonboy2312 Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 yeah looking at the ref photos i took i think i will go back to the AK47 type gas block. just for your info AKM's didn't all have laminated wood with the bulge. check out these pictures i took recently. Link to post Share on other sites
jonboy2312 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 That's not a Russian AKM on most of those photos... but I forgot what make it is! Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian... something of south, mid or eastern European origin - and that pistol grip, shaped like the "roman 1" in italics, is supposed to be its regocnizable feature... Anyway, it's not a pure AKM as it still has the old gas tube with 4 holes in rows on both sides, as well as solid wood furniture with no bulges on the handguard. What particular version or model are you going for, anyway? I mentioned photos of what I did to the basic TM/Cyma AK gas block to make it resemble an AKM unit... so here's a bunch of photos of my previous project gun - an AKMSN based on a CM 028S Link to post Share on other sites
FW200 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 The Hungarians had the "I" grips Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 the beauty of the Ak is that 50 million where made so whatever it turns out like it won't be far of a real steel one out there somewhere I might take the wood furniture off this one: and attach it to the AKM. that would probably look better. I am also waiting for gunner to get some laminated AK stock sets back in stock and maybe use that instead. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Wouldn't technically an AK-47 with a 74 style mag, BE a AK-74? (Here) Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 No offence, but I'd hardly trust a Video Game Website as a reliable source of real steel gun information (especially when the G36K is inaccurate, the K has a 4-hole foregrip ) Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 No offence, but I'd hardly trust a Video Game Website as a reliable source of real steel gun information (especially when the G36K is inaccurate, the K has a 4-hole foregrip ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *shrug* Just saw that and was curious... Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Well, This I consider to be a good source of RS information In general, different stock, foregrip and flashhider to the AK47 Link to post Share on other sites
ad400317 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 No way, the 74 and 47 are quite different. The 74 has a different receiver, which is milled. The handgrip is different, and they have different wood grips. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Once again, Ubisoft fails. Back to Russian guns with sezzy wood! Link to post Share on other sites
Gunshy Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites
LeeC Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Nice blaster Gunshy Thought I'd share my recent acquisition Link to post Share on other sites
Yeager Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Wouldn't technically an AK-47 with a 74 style mag, BE a AK-74? (Here) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why does every gun on that site have a STANAG magazine in their respective mag wells? Link to post Share on other sites
T.P.Evan Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 No way, the 74 and 47 are quite different. The 74 has a different receiver, which is milled. The handgrip is different, and they have different wood grips. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As well as a different barrel for 5.45mm rounds, straight stock, different flash suppressor, and black or bakelite mags with less curvature than AK47 mags. Link to post Share on other sites
Moody Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 No way, the 74 and 47 are quite different. The 74 has a different receiver, which is milled. The handgrip is different, and they have different wood grips. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BZZZZZZZT!! Sorry son, but you're incorrect. The AK74 has a stamped receiver. The AK47 has a milled receiver. But thanks for playing. Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I see the concept of a friendly airsoft community is lost on some folks. Link to post Share on other sites
hsimoorb Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Sorry son, but you're incorrect. The AK74 has a stamped receiver. The AK47 has a milled receiver. But thanks for playing. A Majority of the AK-47s produced had stamped receivers. Link to post Share on other sites
LeeC Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) appologies edited Edited December 17, 2006 by LeeC Link to post Share on other sites
FW200 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 A Majority of the AK-47s produced had stamped receivers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wrong, Ak-47's have milled receivers.. AKM's have stamped receivers. Link to post Share on other sites
Ye old Canadian Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) Nice blaster Gunshy Thought I'd share my recent acquisition <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that a real steel AK? Edited December 17, 2006 by Ye old Canadian Link to post Share on other sites
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