my_plague_666 Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 yes, but the handgaurds are roughly the right shape and evidently if he wanted a display piece he wouldnt have brought a cyma, he'd have brought an inokatsu. he obviously just wants something, cheap, effective and AKM-ish (correct me if im wrong here) if he wants a cheap, rugged skirmish tool he probably just wants people to look at it and go "ooh, AKM" rather than go up to it squinting and saying "OMG! wrong gas block and wrong ridges on the handguard", and lets face it, who the hell does that mid skirmish. might want to try some MAG AKM mids too, they'd look cool. and i can safely say the AK74 ones are brilliant Link to post Share on other sites
srpg Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) the shape of the stock is also off on the Danmu wood kit @ rsov, you may want to wait a bit cause last I hear Mr. Danmu was going to make a updated set with better shape... Edited September 10, 2007 by srpg Link to post Share on other sites
Sammyc Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Just so you guys in the Uk know Fire-support now sell Inokatsu kits, which will save getting them sent from abroad... Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I reckon ordering from russian mania would still work out cheaper though. Does anyone know when the Inokatsu 08 kits will be out? Is it likely to be this year or are we going to have to wait for next year? Link to post Share on other sites
christoff hitler Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 what about these iloveics http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=40_107 Link to post Share on other sites
spb Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Does anyone know when the Inokatsu 08 kits will be out? Is it likely to be this year or are we going to have to wait for next year? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha, you can wait for ever! Inokatsu stopped with producing Ak kits, they are selling out their kits and focussing on the M240. They even cancelled the AKMS kit, the 9 pre-ordered by RMW are sold to someone else (so everyone who ordered one, me included, will get their money back). Thanks Inokatsu Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 That's just Russian Mania Workshop is it not? Once he's cleared his stock he's stopping selling them because they screwed him over with the AKMS. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) spb, Maybe you should thank the companies that keep ripping Inokatsu off instead. (e.g. Classic Army, VFC, and way to many clones to even bother with) Seriously, why should any company bother footing the bill for innovation if some hack can just come along and steal their profits? //Proud owner of A LOT of Inokatsu products, and I'm truly sad to see them forced to cancel so many beautiful AK runs. Edited to add: Hoppum, have you looked at Inokatsu's website lately? Edited September 11, 2007 by thatguy Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Yes, it's still got all the AK products on it. VFC hardly ripped off Ino, completely different design. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Yes, it's still got all the AK products on it. VFC hardly ripped off Ino, completely different design. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I beg to differ on the VFC part, but everyone has their own opinions right? And as far as Inokatsu's website is concerned, maybe try to force-refresh your browser -- the product list is a pale shadow of what it was just a month ago, ESPECIALLY where AKs are concerned. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Battle face! more pics in the russian thread.. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I beg to differ on the VFC part, but everyone has their own opinions right? And as far as Inokatsu's website is concerned, maybe try to force-refresh your browser -- the product list is a pale shadow of what it was just a month ago, ESPECIALLY where AKs are concerned. Sorry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok I see what you mean now. Can you pm me with how VFC ripped off Ino, I'm interested. Link to post Share on other sites
thegunrunner Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I had a friend back home talk to them, and he told me they said the AKMS is "coming soon." I'm guessing that the first production run was very small. Also, he told me that they may restart other AK production if they can get enough orders. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 VFC didn't rip off Guarder. A lot of parts are designed differently, for example: Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I wonder why Inokatsu are putting thier AK bits behind the M240 production, I would expect the m240 has an even smaller market then the kits. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Probably down to their production capacity. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Addendum: Comparison between VFC and Guarder AKSUs. Spot the differences: http://www.combat2000shop.com/combat2000/f...4/vfcak74u.html Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hoppum, PM inbound. (pretty much everything spelled out in PlasticMag's pic) Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Which is most faithful to the real steel? Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) The VFC quite easily. - VFC stamped receiver has same thickness as RS Russian stamped receiver. (Guarder/Inokatsu is thicker then RS Russian) - VFC's selector notches (the positions for full auto & semi) are there where they should be (74 styléé) Guarder/Inokatsu had the std. TM Ak47 layout of selector notches - VFC's receiver has much better quality details on their receiver (bolts & stuff) - VFC's upper hand guards fit to a replica gastube (they get turned around the tube as in real life) Where as guarder/Inokatsu use the TM method for fitting upper hand guard. -VFC has a killer gearbox mounted which can be demounted as quickly as it gets. (basically take of p-grip, selector, push spring loaded hop-up forward & gearbox can be taken out) With a guarder-kit one needs to unscrew alot of tiny imbus screws... (which can get lost if done in non ideal skirmish surroundings) -VFC's lower hand guards (demount as their RS counterparts, with lever) -VFC's AKs74UN RS lower hand guards is a straight replacement with the standard one (which isn't that great, but RS is a straight swap) -The VFC Ak barrel is "pinned" to the receiver and gasblock/front sight are pinned to barrel as well. (with Guarder/Inokatsu the gas block/gas tube/upper hand guards are all held together with one tiny imbus-screw. This works but is nowhere near as sturdy as "pinned parts" (RS parts are pinned as well obviously) Along with the upper hand guard takedown. Edited September 11, 2007 by Hoppum Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Which is most faithful to the real steel? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Technically neither are -- in order to accommodate a V3 mechbox & motor the airsoft receivers are longer than the RS by a little over 1cm and the pistol grip is fatter/longer by degrees. Maybe wait for Real Sword to make an AKS-74U? Supposedly they want to have the correct dimensions for all their AKs. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 he didnt say which is faithful, he said which is MOST faithful. in which case, VFC Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 You mean like the glossy finish and the off-spec wood cuts? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) and the more realistic bolt, stock and handguard takedown (edit: and the many others hoppum listed) yep, indeed i do mean the VFC. and arent AKSUs a glossy finish straight out of the factory? Edited September 11, 2007 by my_plague_666 Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) I must say, at first I was skeptical about VFC guns. But I have inpected them and good god there nice. Can't say about Inokatsu, as I've never held one. But VFC I would consider greatly for my next AEG. Shame they don't make an AKM Edited September 11, 2007 by iloveics Link to post Share on other sites
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