my_plague_666 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 nope, UK. and if im not mistaken is IS legal in the US to use RS load bearing parts. Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 very, very nice -- but that would be real dangerous on the RS, no? Well I supose it would get hotter than a wood uppergrip, so yeah it probably is dangerous Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Yunkers CO2 AKs use RS gas blocks and receivers and are perfectly legal. I think your getting confused with purchasing pressure bearing parts on their own. Edited November 23, 2007 by Hoppum Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 It wasnt 'reactivated' in this country so I dont see that being a huge problem. It was brought into the country as an airsoft gun, not a deact. then by same token I could arrange to have any weapon converted to airsoft/air rifle so long as I had the work done outside the UK - I honestly dont see the authorities wearing that Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 realsword doesent make airsoft from realguns or do they? :S Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 By your theory realsword and some GWS AEGs would also be illegal :? I dont think it applies to this scenario, as the gun is brought in as a single item, which is an airsoft gun realsword doesnt use functional load bearing parts and im not sure if GWS does. but, yes if they use real steel, functioning load bearing parts they would be illegal in the UK. and iloveics, would it really be worse than bursting into flames? that apparently happened a lot with OC-14s Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 what parts of the realshowords aks are real? Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I believe the wood is. Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 How lame :/ It would be cool if like 90% was real^^ Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 real sword have already went to some length to state that while they use same construction materials the internals of their desings are not and never have been real firearms, much same as the Junkers AK. Thats qualitatively different from taking a real firearm, converting it to airsoft and bringing it into the UK Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Just read on redwolf that real sword dont have any real steel parts only same size and dimension. Edited November 23, 2007 by GRIM! Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 then by same token I could arrange to have any weapon converted to airsoft/air rifle so long as I had the work done outside the UK - I honestly dont see the authorities wearing that It is possible that it's a legitimate loophole though. Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Just read on redwolf that real sword dont have any real steel parts only same sixe and dimension. oh my mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) I believe the wood is. even if it was (which it isnt), is wood a load bearing part? no (evidently hoppum didnt realise it was a rhetorical question, so i added 'no' afterwards ) Edited November 23, 2007 by my_plague_666 Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 You mean pressure bearing parts. And no handguards and stocks aren't. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Yunkers CO2 AKs use RS gas blocks and receivers and are perfectly legal. I think your getting confused with purchasing pressure bearing parts on their own. yunkers co2 air rifles do not use real steel receivers theres no internal rails from the centrefire version no magwell dimples the steel isnt heat treated the front trunnion is totally different and the gas block on those Ive seen are fake Same goes for the makarov CO2 pistols - frames arent hardened, slide rails are different dimensions making it imposible to interchange slides, barrel trunnions are machined differently for same reason slide internals are different. The only interchangeable parts are trigger bar safety catch mainspring and pistol grip Even the triggers hammers and slidestop/ejector are different With the issues in Chechnya the russian authorities imposed pretty strict requirements on this sort of stuff themselves. Sellers like to advertise 90 percent parts from the real thing etc but while some parts might have same starting point at best they're whipped off the line unfinished, and often just made from scratch specifically for the CO2 variants. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 We know that the reactivation of a deact is illegal, so I suppose it comes down to whether a "reactivated" deact (ie, with airsoft parts in) counts a firearm, and if it does, then that would probably mean that under uk law you are importing a firearm. Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 UK laws make my head spin. Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) For US you can buy pretty much anything except a receiver and IIRC the fire control parts and its a s legal as owning a teddy bear. Thats why you see Comrade_MP1's MpiKM with a RS gas piston. I might do a conversion for RS gas block, tube, front sight, but the rest seem too damn hard. The stock on my Romy AIM that I'm working on is a b****. The pins are just basically screw with the heads cut off. 40% done with now. Edited November 23, 2007 by dookieboy Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Sounds cool Dookieboy Ive had the ideas my self of buying a real romy AKM or AIM and convert to airsoft i just need to lookuo what parts are legal in sweden btw since lack of AK pix i post a sig i painted in Photoshop Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeMP1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) You can buy anything here in the US, long as it's not illegal to own. You can even go ahead and build your own weapons at home as long as they conform to certain laws, it's perfectly fine. I'm going to build a Romy G someday, of course being in california, there are further restrictions :/ . Yeah, I do have a Romy bolt in the works, just a lot of work and time. My AK is even going to have a mostly intact barrel except for the fact that it was cut in half and will need to be bored up to fit a inner barrel. I also know of some guy building Mosin Nagants out of real ones with only a few parts removed. I also remember seeing a guy used a real Bulgarian AK and modded the barrel and spent shells to take the bb's and use green gas, also believe that the gas system of the AK was also modded as used the blowback to load the next cartridge. Gonna do the minimum inside my stock, gonna use a crane stock batt or a nun chuck. Gonna sand down the insides and use something so it will be pretty and no splinters. I really like how solid and sturdy the screws are, so Im gonna try and use the screw for the stock, maybe even modify the tangs from either a real milled AK lower tang or tangs assembly from a CYMA CM.028 . I also do believe I got a second MPi handguard set coming in Fido, that is going to be awwwwwsome. Grim, could be done, but the size dimensions are different and gonna have to do a lot of work. Pretty sure a gearbox won't fit inside because of the short length of the reciever. Quite possible to try and get a hold of a Real Sword Type 56 gearbox, but I think that's gonna be hard enough. Then stuff like anchoring the hop up and boring up the barrel for the inner barrel, man , lots of work, time, money. Edited November 23, 2007 by ComradeMP1 Link to post Share on other sites
-FIDO- Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I also remember seeing a guy used a real Bulgarian AK and modded the barrel and spent shells to take the bb's and use green gas, also believe that the gas system of the AK was also modded as used the blowback to load the next cartridge. i think you mean the famous hoax by ?unconventional airsoft? Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeMP1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I don't know for sure, saw that sooo long ago, way before I even started softin'. Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) I have painted a AKM in Photoshop and have started making accerories so you can eazy swap and test what looks the best before you consider buying anything so you know how the resault gets, heres a pic of it what i have done so far, it will be relesed as a PSD later where all the parts are in difrent layers if you people are intrested in it? Im going to do ultimak and Eaotech next, also come with ideas and provied me with pix and i might paint it Edit: forgot the pic XD And heres a example of what you can do, i did my AIMS w vented upper Edited November 24, 2007 by GRIM! Link to post Share on other sites
Boar Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Where did you get that upper btw? I've seen it a few times and I know it's a copy of the HCR one...or did you buy it from there? Also I take it that it can be removed from the gas tube? Link to post Share on other sites
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