Fin Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I had looked at the Element, and the amount of work they seem to take is a bit irritating. My dremel isn't particularly good. It had enough trouble just modifying the hand guard and retaining collars to accept them. I remember a King arms being talked about somewhere, but can't find any record of it... Dis one? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=21912 Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 More incorrect ak's * joins empty chambers and puts on flame retardent suit* Link to post Share on other sites
Slash' Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Incorrect, but sexy as hell Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 its not really if there correct or not but its what you call them. If you call yours a Russian AKM then yes its incorrect but if you call it a Iraqi Khyber pass rifle lol. Link to post Share on other sites
EmptyChambers Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) More incorrect ak's * joins empty chambers and puts on flame retardent suit* Your's happens to be sexier because it has wood. Edit: Wow. That came out mildly homoerotic... Edited December 10, 2007 by EmptyChambers Link to post Share on other sites
srpg Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Khyber pass style rifles are sweet looking. Plus Uzbek soldiers use something similar too, it's not just afghan or iraqis Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) I think it looks great! I'm still an AK n00b What makes it incorrect? Slainte! Edited December 10, 2007 by Guinness Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 It looks good iloveics. Is this the finished product or is there more to come. Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) Just ask GRIM cheers for the comments guys TCB: Well I never really aimed for a goal. I just bought a cool woodkit cos I saw it, bought a cool metal body kit cos it was for "ak's" lol and bought a steel stock because I was sick of the wood one cracking every skirmish. If nothing breaks then I will probably leave it be Edited December 10, 2007 by iloveics Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'm still an AK n00b What makes it incorrect? Well I've never seen a coat hanger stock on a milled receiver before. But seeing as he's not saying it's intended to replicate a real AK there's no way it can be 'incorrect'. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'm still an AK n00b What makes it incorrect? Slainte! well, lets assume it's meant to be a romanian AIMS with a russian handguard. the reciever is an AK47 style milled type, the AKM (base gun for the AIMS) was stamped steel. the gas tube is ventilated al-la AK47, for the AKM it was changed to no ventilated. the pistol grip is an AK47 one, and while i think very early AKMs had wooden pistol grips the majority had plastic. the bolt also appears to be AK47 style rather than the AKM which had a sliver cut out toward the back (like the AK74). regardless, its a very nice looking gun iloveics Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) well, lets assume it's meant to be a romanian AIMS with a russian handguard. the reciever is an AK47 style milled type, the AKM (base gun for the AIMS) was stamped steel. the gas tube is ventilated al-la AK47, for the AKM it was changed to no ventilated. the pistol grip is an AK47 one, and while i think very early AKMs had wooden pistol grips the majority had plastic. the bolt also appears to be AK47 style rather than the AKM which had a sliver cut out toward the back (like the AK74). regardless, its a very nice looking gun iloveics wow! Thanks for the detail and lesson! I need to spend more time at Tantals Oh wait- and isn't that the wrong magazine for that receiver too? I think I remember a whole rant about that earlier in the year Slainte! Edited December 10, 2007 by Guinness Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) no, milled recievers are for AK47s which like the AKM are also chambered for 7.62x39, so it would still be the correct mag. whether the bakelite mags were arround when the '47 was being made i dont know, but it would work eitherway. Edited December 10, 2007 by my_plague_666 Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) It's fine, AIMS chambered 7.62x39 which is ok for both milled and stamped receivers (although as mp666 says the AIM/S didn't have milled receivers). The only incorrect combinations are either 5.45x39 or 5.56x45 in a milled receiver. Edit: Oh shi- iloveics has a milled receiver, edited to make more relevant. Edited December 10, 2007 by Hoppum Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 no, milled recievers are for AK47s which like the AKM are also chambered for 7.62x39, so it would still be the correct mag. Ahhh gotcha- I thought that was an AK74 mag which is the smaller 5.somethingXsomethingelse size....right? Toleya I was a n00b still Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's fine, AIMS chambered 7.62x39 which is ok for both milled and stamped receivers (although as mp666 says the AIM/S didn't have milled receivers). The only incorrect combinations are either 5.45x39 or 5.56x45 in a milled receiver. Edit: Oh shi- iloveics has a milled receiver, edited to make more relevant. You can still get milled receiver IIRC for Bulgarian 5.45 made receivers. Also a wooden grip wood be ok as early Romy AIM had them. And the gas block needs to change to a slant type without the sling mount. Did you get front sight also?And the trunnion lol. Rear and front! And bakelite was around when the AKMs came out, plus bakelite was being used in early plastic products. As that's what it is! Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 You can still get milled receiver IIRC for Bulgarian 5.45 made receivers. Just been and looked it up, Arsenal Bulgaria uses milled receivers for it 5.56x45 models. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) So a 'milled' receiver has the large rectangular indent directly above the mag well, and the 'stamped' receivers just have the oval shaped dimple above the mag well, yes? Edited December 11, 2007 by Guinness Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Basically. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Ahhh gotcha- I thought that was an AK74 mag which is the smaller 5.somethingXsomethingelse size....right? Toleya I was a n00b still 5.45x39 . all AK (and even the subsonic 9mms for the AS VAL, VSS and VSK-94) are 39mm long. probably the best way to remember what is chambered for what is to think that the 47 just used chopped 7.62 rifle rounds, the AKM was just an improved 47 so uses the same round. as for the AK74, the russians developed a small, high velocity round to compete with NATO's 5.56, just remember that the 74 uses a similar diameter to the 5.56 NATO. as for the AK100 series, theyre chmabered for EVERYTHING, 7.62 R, 5.45 R and 5.56 NATO. you'll pick it all up eventually Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) Cheers guys, It's a rather special gun to me. Lots of work makes you bond with it. I shall get more pics, but when I get home from college it's already dark. I'll give it ago with flash. Here goes... Yeah it's just my ak. don't know what to call it anymore lol Edited December 11, 2007 by iloveics Link to post Share on other sites
-FIDO- Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 looks good, it definitely has something special to it! Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 The motherland demands a stamped receiver! Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) 5.45x39 . all AK (and even the subsonic 9mms for the AS VAL, VSS and VSK-94) are 39mm long. probably the best way to remember what is chambered for what is to think that the 47 just used chopped 7.62 rifle rounds, the AKM was just an improved 47 so uses the same round. as for the AK74, the russians developed a small, high velocity round to compete with NATO's 5.56, just remember that the 74 uses a similar diameter to the 5.56 NATO. as for the AK100 series, theyre chmabered for EVERYTHING, 7.62 R, 5.45 R and 5.56 NATO. you'll pick it all up eventually Roger- got all that Excellent gun IMHO iloveics! Slainte! Edited December 11, 2007 by Guinness Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 cheers guys Link to post Share on other sites
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