Fin Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 If you could find out if somebody could get hold of a plum izzy one and (if possible) a tula Bakelite one, note im a bit broke right now so prices would be appreciated (i bet the tula one will be expensive). Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 sbp, that AKMS is the best AK on these forums period. And, I'm seriosly considering a clone AKSU for a back up gun. But, I want it to be reliable out of the box (I upgradetarded) and still have decent externals (I like doing some mods). I need performance over externals. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 if you cant upgrade for yourself or pay someone else to do it the cyma would probably be your best bet. far superior internals (tightbore and metal bushings too). you could always ask the people if they will do the work to a kalash before they send it if you want the externals as well Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Wrong. Kalash externals are far stronger. Internals are cheap. beg to disagree. not totally true, imho. bolt carrier rattles on the boyi, there's a gap between the receiver cover and the trunnion, the upper handguard is looser fitting than the cyma's, and the outer barrel is pot metal -- at least on the kalash that i have. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) outer barrel is alloy on all of them so its a moot point Id prefer steel outer but at least kalash use side pins to avoid grub screw cut like the unicron could prove prone to and doesnt attach hop unit directly to an alloy outer barrel connsidering how little of an AKSU barrel is actually visible its the one part I have the least issue with being alloy. rattly bolt compared to what? is no more rattly than late model VFCs far less rattly than early VFC ones and it looks like a 74 style bolt whereas cyma looks like a 47 bolt painted black no mater how stable it is. With a battery in place the bolt has zero rattle - theres around 2mm of side play if you put direct pressure on it but no rattle if you shake it around and even without a battery fitted it doesnt have the version 1 VFC issue of bolt falling inside the receiver. I dont see any more of a gap between receiver cover and trunnion on mine than VFC or the real one and top handguard doesnt rattle anymore than real deal does either if anything the lousy hinge pin for the top cover is more of an issue than the 0.8mm gap between front of the cover and the trunnion bottom line for me the Kalash looks like an AKSU in far more of its details than the cyma does. An anal fixation over details? absolutely but then this is the AK thread where wrong angle gas block can cause three bouts of palpitations 2 seizueres and a heart attack Edited October 17, 2007 by snorkelman Link to post Share on other sites
chaoslord800 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 never was an ELCAN fan, now i hate it even more after seeing that. anyhoo, can anyone with a fullstock VFC AK74 tell me if: a. the stock is hollow and b. i can rewire it to fit a large battery in the stock? The stock is not hollow and I don't believe you can (unfortunatley). Link to post Share on other sites
ShaunBates Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hello, Not my rifle, I skirmished for the first time at Alpha 55 last month but anyway this is the rifle I used so I thought I would stick it on. http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/383/image4bt2.jpg P.S does anybody know what 'make' of rifle this is? I looked all over for the words 'Classic Army' for example and there was none to be found!? Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Judging by the design and by the fake furniture its probably a Marui, if not that a cyma Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 That's a Marui. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 The stock is not hollow and I don't believe you can (unfortunatley). bugger. i recon it will be possible to wire a battety into the stock, but i guess to fit a large batt i'll need inok furnature Link to post Share on other sites
lordyeray Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 ... how far does the bolt go back in the Unicorn/Dboys? Link to post Share on other sites
Alakdan101 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) That's a Marui.look like a cyma... as i got both gun...furniture color resemble a cyma... marui easily worn the paint of magazine than the outer barrel.. and there's no engraved marui name... Edited October 17, 2007 by Alakdan101 Link to post Share on other sites
HellsAngel Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 What does the full size AK74 (black) look like with an Elcan on it? I love the SU but its a bit small... Cheers, HellsAngel Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 how far does the bolt go back in the Unicorn/Dboys? Far as the rear of the rear sight housing on the dboys (the return spring is fully compressed by that point) about half an inch further on the unicorn. Link to post Share on other sites
The Taurus Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) Has anyone had any experience with one of these? Clicky!! Its Cyma so should be nice quality, just wondering what it looks like. Also what does an aimpoint look like on a (full length) AK with one of the above (side) mounts. I don't believe I have ever seen one... Is it that wrong Edited October 17, 2007 by The Taurus Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) outer barrel is alloy on all of them so its a moot point sorry, but it is steel on mine. did the magnet test to make sure bottom line for me the Kalash looks like an AKSU in far more of its details than the cyma does. absolutely agree with you there, mate. and they both rate very high in airsoft play functionality, imho. but when you are comparing one with the other, the devil is in the details and the details can vary depending on the user's experience and anal level plus, ACM production standards are still sloppy so one unit from a maker can be quite different in quality from another unit from the same maker overall, have no beef with your observations. you've been quite fair and correct most of the time. however, judging from the feedback we're getting from flip kalash users, the units we're getting here have better quality than the ones you got. cheers, Edited October 18, 2007 by zentaurus Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) server glitch = double post Edited October 18, 2007 by zentaurus Link to post Share on other sites
barnezilla Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites
Alakdan101 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 after varnishing the HG and magazine the cyma 035 Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) My OMON shadow camo jacket with my rk104 and stock highcap and 5 midcaps. And my crappy 40$ p90 Edited October 18, 2007 by Schultz98 Link to post Share on other sites
neoptolemus Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 always nice to see the shadow pattern Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 always nice to see the shadow pattern hell yeah!!! getting my pants and beret from redsoldier soon. first pair didnt fit so I sent it back. just wiating on it Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Can one just put a CYMA gearbox into the Kalash/Dboys/Boyi(those are all the same, yes?) or are they not compatible? Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 suggested that before - buy both swap the boxes and inner barrels over, then sell on the cyma with the dboys internals.. provided you have to take less of a price cut on that pre-owned cyma than just laying out cost of an inner barrel hop unit and metal bushings for the dboys could prove cheaper option Link to post Share on other sites
dstrctn Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 You guys are probably the best to ask about this. How realistic, appearance wise, are the VFC line of AKS74's? Link to post Share on other sites
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