Ochronix Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 i'd like to add that if anyone has any questions on the vfc aims before they purchase one, ill try to answer them as best as I can after christmas. and i'll get some better quality pictures once i've unwrapped it and painted the orange. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Unicorn and kalash will never be up to VFC/ Inokatsu standards, you will ALWAYS get problems with china clones sooner or later As for the VFC battery thing, i think its because there AIMS includes the dummy bolt so they had to find somewhere else for the battery (another 1 up on Inokatsu) If you have a problem...fix it, I doubt it will cost more then the cost of a vfc, let alone an Ino. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Unicorn and kalash will never be up to VFC/ Inokatsu standards, you will ALWAYS get problems with china clones sooner or later you do realise that VFC erm um ah how shall i put it are nothing but a clone themselves that their gearbox in particular IS a clone gearbox both in source of components and quality, and that a year and a half ago the same "hmmm not sure about those" attitudes abounded regarding their stuff and same "its cheap enough to throw away the internals if it turns out they're pooh" applied too (albeit at that time the comparison was a guarder branded inokatsu at twice its price with no gearbox at all) ive seen no real issues reported about the unicorn other than its lousy bolt and the general quality of its assembly (which considering the manufac had no control over that cant really be laid at their door) its only other problems being ones that can be fettled back out I dont happen to like the sort of quasi blued finish they went for but I can see why folks do likewise the dboys - an iffy mag catch design, somewhat wobbly front sight post, over greased gearbox internals and thats about it Anything else thats cropped up on either of them is in such small numbers that it hardly represents a trend (and most of what has croped up in those respects also cropped up on the VFC - wobbly bolts, covers that wont latch closed, wobbly handguards, misaligned or poorly performing hop units,the occasional mushy selector lever etc) Link to post Share on other sites
REVOA4 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 I picked up a brand new VFC AKS-74U at my local shop and this gun had more rattles than anything I've ever seen! I would not buy a VFC, I'd probably kick my own *albatross* if I bought one for $300-400 us. Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 I picked up a brand new VFC AKS-74U at my local shop and this gun had more rattles than anything I've ever seen! I would not buy a VFC, I'd probably kick my own *albatross* if I bought one for $300-400 us. They are not supposed to be like that Link to post Share on other sites
Kristoffer Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 In the end, VFC and Inokatsu are very similar. VFC has details that Inokatsu lack, and Inokatsu has a larger selection of models. Used for skirmishing, there would be no difference between the two brands. The chinese clones... well, let me put it this way: The Unicorn AKSU top-cover can be shaped (and had to be before I could close the lid) with my fingers, the inokatsu top-covers can not. All steel is not equal, and chinese steel is known for bad quality. True story from Norway: A person responsible for buying building supplies for his company, sent a box of nails to China, with the question: How much would a similar product cost? The reply he got, he kept to himself, but several weeks later, 3 large pallets of nails were delivered, with identical trademarks, "made in Norway", perfect copies in every way except one: They were so soft, you couldn't hammer them into anything harder than balsa-wood. Link to post Share on other sites
srpg Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 can you people stop with the sweeping generalizations about a country's or a company's products? Link to post Share on other sites
REVOA4 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 can you people stop with the sweeping generalizations about a country's or a company's products? I own a D Boys M4 and the body is amazing! High quality metal, no pot metal in sight. Link to post Share on other sites
lawofthirds Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sure, as soon as the sweeping generalizations cease to be true in the majority of cases. That's not to say all chinese made products are of poor quality. However there is an established track record of poor quality copies of products being made in the PRC. It's going to take a long string of good experiences and products to make western consumers forget about the slag put out in the past. Link to post Share on other sites
REVOA4 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sure, as soon as the sweeping generalizations cease to be true in the majority of cases. That's not to say all chinese made products are of poor quality. However there is an established track record of poor quality copies of products being made in the PRC. It's going to take a long string of good experiences and products to make western consumers forget about the slag put out in the past. well said, but I have seen the quality of some chinese guns greatly improve recently. Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Back on topic this is about AKs not Quality or M4s. The duty car has been called. Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 likewise the dboys - an iffy mag catch design, somewhat wobbly front sight post, over greased gearbox internals and thats about it The bolt broke on mine and the sp-1 plastic part is mis-shaped and is a *badgeress* to get in As for VFC i'll admit the hop up isnt the best but its not a costly fix As for unicorn, if they would be nice enough to release a few more kits id be happy to buy one and find out the quality (make a RPK kit dam you) Link to post Share on other sites
WildCard Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 My God look what I did! I posted a picture!!!11! Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 The bolt broke on mine and the sp-1 plastic part is mis-shaped and is a *badgeress* to get in Ive seen nothing other than single figure examples quoted for the issues Exactly the same as you get for every other gun out there VFC included. Single instances dont constitute a trend. Link to post Share on other sites
Crumbelievable Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sorry to deviate slightly from pictures, but what would be the best metal body set for a marui AK other than the inokatsus? Specifically, are the king arms or g&ps any good? Link to post Share on other sites
InfoH Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 AK's look so different when they are black instead of wood colour lol Link to post Share on other sites
Parsley Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 AK's look so different when they are black instead of wood colour lol errr... state the bleeding obvious!! lol Link to post Share on other sites
Shroomalistic Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 before we get off the aims topic Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Anyone know if the VFc Ak 105 takes a large battery still or what? also does it have a faux gas pistol and such like the G&G? I remembered hearing about it. If so Im selling my G&G 104 and getting it to keep it legit Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) It takes a stick battery with the dummy bolt just an option for display, judging from recent photos. Edited December 23, 2007 by Hoppum Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Looking hot Shroomalistic Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 It takes a stick battery with the dummy bolt just an option for display, judging from recent photos. How could It take a stick if the bolts in the way? like the VFC Aims cant have a stock one because the bolt. it holds the battery in the hand grip. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 The bolt is just for display purposes, ie you take it out when you want to put the battery in, if it even comes with the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 How could It take a stick if the bolts in the way? like the VFC Aims cant have a stock one because the bolt. it holds the battery in the hand grip. as hoppum said. it is an optional dummy bolt. you wont be able to use that bolt with a battery. Link to post Share on other sites
Schultz98 Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 eh not that big of a deal. just sad it only uses a stick battery. Link to post Share on other sites
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