Trasher Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Quick question: fully upgraded Pro-sniper shooting 5-6 inches to the left-and-up @ a mere 10 meters, with fullly adjusted open sights! What is the most likely cause of the problem? Bent barrel / badly positioned spacers? Lack of spacers? Dirty tightbore? Hop-up is not "vertical"? What to check first? Link to post Share on other sites
scithe Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 what's your velocity? a lot of the time if you have too high of a velocity plus the hopup it will create a gyro effect on the bb. you can check this by putting your hopup setting to minimum and seeing if it still goes off course like that. also, fore those who want a heavier stock for your vsr's but ate the smokeys one, you can just stuff your stock. all you do is get about 3lbs worth of material that can fit in your stock, wrap it tightly in tissues, put tape all around it so that the sissues will not tear, put it in your stock surrounded by tightly compacted tissues so that there is no movement in the stock, and then close it up with the buttpad. it's that easy. it will give the rifle a nice solid feeling, and will also give it great ballance when shouldered. personally i find that it ballances a lot like a bullpup. Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 It's a pretty consistent 470fps. Thanks for the tip! Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Quick question: fully upgraded Pro-sniper shooting 5-6 inches to the left-and-up @ a mere 10 meters, with fullly adjusted open sights! What is the most likely cause of the problem? Bent barrel / badly positioned spacers? Lack of spacers? Dirty tightbore? Hop-up is not "vertical"? What to check first? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If its doing it everytime chances are its the hop might have been twisted slightly, take it apart down to the inner barrel, give it a clean and put the hop ruber back on. put it back together and give it ago. could be slight bit of dirt on the inner barrel in conjunction with the hop causing it to do this. Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 clean the hop and barrel just to eliminate them possibilities. and if you're using iron sights, are you sure the front sight is at the correct place? because it's only stuck on there by double sided tape. did it move? and define what you mean by 'fully upgraded' but that shouldnt really change the trajectory of your shots that far off in 10metres. i got a feeling your hop is tilted or something. make sure everything's not loose inside you gun... because i have to check that every now and then on mine to make sure my internals of the gun aint falling apart whilst im using it. Link to post Share on other sites
scithe Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 ok, i just finished the stress test of the g-spec. it was using the standard barrel during the test. i basically used it heavilly for about 3 months without cleaning, lubing, or performing any maintanence on it. i used it in light rain, light snow, extreme cold, and in heavilly wooded areas. what did i find out? there was not a lot of change in performance. towards the end of the testing every once in a while there would be a wild shot, and the bolt became a bit stiff. other than that it functioned pretty smoothly. also, these changes in performance took about 2 and a half months to start occuring. i am getting a 6.03mm barrel for it soon, after i do some tests with that i will put it through another stess test. Link to post Share on other sites
alastairthegreat Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 sounds like a good excuse to not clean a gun for a couple of months Link to post Share on other sites
Calcifer Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 I basically used it heavilly for about 3 months without cleaning, lubing, or performing any maintanence on it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A man after my own heart. I haven't cleaned my G-Spec in about 2 months (But because i'm lazy) and it is functioning perfectly. If you're wandering it's currently got a 6.03mm barrel. Link to post Share on other sites
scithe Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 A man after my own heart. I haven't cleaned my G-Spec in about 2 months (But because i'm lazy) and it is functioning perfectly. If you're wandering it's currently got a 6.03mm barrel. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> blech. i personally love cleaning my weapons, but then again i don't i don't have much of a life Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 First of all, thanks for the tips guys! I cleaned the barrel, it was very dirty (bought the rifle used), but the problem is still there. When the barrel+receiver assy is removed from the stock I can rotate the outer barrel 1-2mm in the receiver (set screw is tightened). Is this normal? The rifle has a new alu receiver 'cos the original was worn out. After taking the hop-up chamber apart I noticed that the rubber is deformed, slightly twisted, and very-very loose on the inner barrel without the teflon tape. Which replacement rubber is the better? Nine balls, Firefly? Hard or soft for 500-570+ fps? Link to post Share on other sites
scithe Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 what gun do you have? is it a vsr-10? Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 vsr10 pro-sniper Link to post Share on other sites
scithe Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 ya, that's with my g-spec too. i don't know if it is supposed to do that as i got mine used, but just tightent the screws on the frame. especially the smaller one towards the front. that should stop the loose feeling. Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 the nine ball hop rubber works fine on those fps. still nice to add a bit of teflon tape to it. the rotation in the outerbarrel is normal. Link to post Share on other sites
WildCard Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Thebauer, how did your test go? Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 good and bad. Saturday the weather was quite iffy, Wind was rather bad and alot of shots had to be quite off target, half the day i spent with my newly purchased AEG (for days like that) Sunday was a bit better, got my rifle zero'd better, again it was rather windy but not as windy. TBH i dont see much difference over the Laylax 6.03mm inner barrel in Skirmishing terms, shots seemed to still go the same sort of places. Im going to a bigger site next week with some longer ranges. ill be able to test it again then, but atm im feeling like it was a waste of money. Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Thats a shame to hear mate, hopefully it does turn out to be a bit better, as I was considering getting one myself after christmas. That is if I don't get tempted to sort out the fibreglass Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 like ive said ill have another chance to test it next week, im hoping it was just because it wasrather windy. Ill try some Digicon .36 next week as well, i was running SGM .29 so maybe they were slightly to light for the wind. Link to post Share on other sites
WildCard Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Cheers for the feedback, guess i'll be ordering a 6.03... Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 like i said it could just be due to the high wind we had the 6.03 might have been worse in the wind we had, and i was using .29 SGM. next week im going to be taking both SGM and Digicon ammo and i will make the effort to try both out. Link to post Share on other sites
sirrith Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 have you tried TM .3 before? from my own experience, they perform much better than SGM .29 in my gspec Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 No, ive used in the past: Guarder .28 HFC .3 Extreeme .3 Digicon .3 digicon .36 Digicon .36 Teflon coated Excel .25 (on weaker spring) Link to post Share on other sites
Jenbu Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 hey guys i've got a question. I've been out of airsofting for a while now unfortunately but before i had to stop i got the Laylax (PSS10) Cylinder Head Pro for my vsr 10. now cause i didn't read into properly and i was told the wrong thing when i tries to fit it to my standard cylinder its killed all the threads on my cylinder, I was talking to one of my mates and he said that TM had released a new stock cylinder which was able to take the cylinder head is this true? i cant seem to find any info on it anywhere. just wondering as i cant really afford to pick up the teflon coated cylinder at 60pound cheers in advance Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Well don't quote me, but from my experiance I would say that unless WGC stock it and they don't appear to, then you will find it impossible to get unless you buy a new rifle. You may well have to buy the teflon £60 cylinder... ouch. Perhaps it is more economic to buy a new rifle and sell the other bits as spares???? ouch look for someone on here that is upgrading and get their old parts off them??? Anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
Jenbu Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 thats what i was thinking but i wanted to know if it's true what my friend said Link to post Share on other sites
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