TheBauer Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 This thread is for the discussion on Airsoftsniper.co.uk What would you like to see on the site? I've spoke to the owner of the Darc.airsoftsniper site and hes given me permission to copy his content onto this site with credits of course going to him, there will be a increase in content over the next couple of weeks. Including: More Articles Gear reviews Load Out ideas Submitable Image database for you to upload your photos What would you guys like to see? Reply in this thread and we can discuss. Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 vid to make a proper ghillie? the net seems to be lacking these. i know there're loads of ways to make ghillies but maybe a vid for noobs wanting to make a ghillie? Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'd like to see these done away with: Sorry, the page you have requested cannot be found. Link to post Share on other sites
i~mack Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 although its a great site, few more in detail reviews if possible ? and of the kind of loadouts that would be suitable for a sniper while wearing a ghillie ? Link to post Share on other sites
=J= Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 More guides! In particular installing upgrades and parts for the rifles as opposed to just strip downs! Gonna be a nice site Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 vid to make a proper ghillie? the net seems to be lacking these. i know there're loads of ways to make ghillies but maybe a vid for noobs wanting to make a ghillie? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A video would be good, ive wanted to do some video tutorials of things but its getting the time for some1 to hold the video camera whilst i do the guides. i think im going to be making another ghillie come december / january (ive got a big work load in december so its going to be more like january) for a winter dead ghillie which will be photopgraphed and hopefully video'd, this will be from a BDU as the base. I'd like to see these done away with: Sorry, the page you have requested cannot be found. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heh yeh it redirects to that so you dont get the normal white page cannot be found. ive been rather busy recently with work so its just trying to get the time when im not tired to add more content. although its a great site, few more in detail reviews if possible ? and of the kind of loadouts that would be suitable for a sniper while wearing a ghillie ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Going to be taking some more photos and discussing my load out after the 25/26th with and without my concealment vest, The Bushman has a rather large loadout due to the style of games he plays, mine will concentrate more on skirmish games. hopefully he can write a article on his as well. Im going to review the HFC VSR-11 soon which ive just recieved, all ready the stock feels nicer than the TM stock. More guides! In particular installing upgrades and parts for the rifles as opposed to just strip downs! Gonna be a nice site <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeh i understand, but most of the upgrades are generaly from a strip down then you just replace and reassemble. Ill be doing a video upgrade of the piston and trigger sear in a VSR soonish. Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Nice.... Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 bauer. tripod is your friend i also know someone that cable ties 2legs out of 3 onto the back of a chair with the camera pointing down to the table. it's very effective although i've never really needed a ghillie but impulse buying have given me an experience with a very very heavy and hot ghillie before. it was also a pants one too lol Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 LOL well a tripod would be nice, but ive just bought the video camera (and a bargin that was) and a tripod wasnt really on the list, using some one to do that actual filming is alot cheaper like i said january i should be doing a guide to the way "I" make my ghillies, problem with them is that there quite 'personal' and each will be different. so it will probably be more of guidelines than actual "you do this then this" Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 i understand making ghillies are making it to your own preferences, just like how some people like to have their food served in a particular way. i've noticed some new-comers into the sniping part of airsoft/chairsofting, they think when it comes to being a airsoft sniper, you HAVE to have all the consealment gear and all the trimmings to go with it. maybe here's my chance to emphasise it. NO YOU DO NOT NEED A GHILLIE, REAL TREE HEAD/GEAR WRAP etc etc to make you a good sniper. a full set of DPM, your weapon that's damn accurate and possibly a scope will do you just fine as long as you know where to place yourself. sure the consealment gear helps but it does not necessarily mean you'll become a chameleon. back on topic. there isnt a 'right' way to make a ghillie i know bauer. but seeing as there arent any decent vids of making a ghillie online (there are a few with people just piling some ###### on a fishing net and saying tada, but that's just pants) so i mean maybe you can make one for the fellow 'softers on arnies. it'll also be a nice vid to host on airsoft sniper Link to post Share on other sites
TDS Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I beg to differ, you need at least something to conceal your head like scrim netting, dont need a good rifle though people that take the field with all the trimmings right away, end up sucking. the "real" way of making a ghillie is slowly modifying your outfit, uniform, whatever, to suit you as you play and learn more and more. im on ghillie #4 in 2 years BTW Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 i understand where you're coming from TDS, i was basing my post above on the way me and a few others i know usually snipe and how it can be done. but you're not wrong. but the sniping world is just much more complicated than saying you need the stuff on this list to be able to start learning how to snipe good. and tbh, i've put scrim and burlap over my VSR and it works a treat! but knowing where to lie down and not move in the shadows using the shadows and whatever is with you in the surroundings also help. but anyway. but arguably, wouldnt an AEGer say like a SL9 with scrim netting/head cover do the similar job? as that type of AEGs do have pretty damn nice range and accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites
TDS Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 but arguably, wouldnt an AEGer say like a SL9 with scrim netting/head cover do the similar job? as that type of AEGs do have pretty damn nice range and accuracy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no. for a beginner, aegs are decent because they are loud and inaccurate, they force you to learn how to sneak around and get close. to actually be exceedingly effective, not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Sorry but I'm not really seeing where this is going. Regarding cammo, try shooting birds with an air-rifle for a few years. Birds notice people much easier than people do. If you can fool birds, you can fool people. Regarding AEGs, dunno what else to say but "cobblers". A boltie is definately cheaper than an AEG but it is possible to build a sniper AEG. Finding somewhere to use it is the hard part. I'd be happy to stick an M170 spring in my MSG90 and show you what an AEG sniper can do any time you like. Link to post Share on other sites
TDS Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'd be happy to stick an M170 spring in my MSG90 and show you what an AEG sniper can do any time you like. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> miss me a few times and then explode? sure! Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 miss me a few times and then explode? sure! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thems fighting talkses! Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Well I suggest what makes you effective is neither your rifle/gun or your ghillie/dpm's..... it is ..... your mindset. What is effective all depends on the site, conditions and game format. Urban ninja : sounds like you firefight at times due to your site and in that situation you end up playing what appears to be now known as a DM role. Slide and dive is all you can do when against high ROF guns in a firefight. Ghillie is less effective in some terrains and tactics must differ. As you say DPM is enough and using dead ground to hide and move in is a tactic I use as much as possible. Having great ghillie suits is one thing but unless you are stationary, they will not stop you being spotted. Wearing no ghillie allows you to be more silent when moving as less chance of a snag etc... Choice of terrain or route and taking your time are important factors in your success. TDS : AEG are inferior platforms for extreme long ranged shooting but must say the TM M14 does impress me. Remember I come from a distant background when Airsoft was building your own kit rifle, that bog standard fired 5m. HOP did not exist. With our tinkering they got a decent chance of a hit in 25m ..... so I am easily impressed . Agreed, ANY gun can be used by an Airsoft HUNTER/"sniper". Some just mean you have to get closer than others. Learning on a poor gun and then moving on up slowly is what taught me the art of stealth and stalking. As you needed those skills with 300fps non hop guns to get close enough to take the shot. I have seen the video of your site (in your sig) and it appears full of what I can only call targets. No offence but it looks like a target rich environment for a player with any ability in stealth/concealment. What works well in your environment of higher powered rifles and AEG is very different from many UK sites sub 1 joule limits. Although I did notice someone said that WYNAL are lowering their limit to 400fps and presume this will force a change to your game? My game is not about having a hardware edge over the opponents. Low power/tech just means it is down to you not your rifle to get the hit. STEALTHBOMBER : I agree about hunting birds/animals, as they are much more alert than 50% of Airsofters. Perfect practice is stalking rabbits . There are many different takes on what the art of "sniping" is.... if you even think it is called that. Much is down to your environment in which you play. The game of HUNTEERING, requires you have to move to accomplish the navigation parts of the game. This means you cannot just camp out all day. It's about breaking up your day with stalking and ambushing in different areas. What works for me probably won't for you and vice versa.... in fact much of my game tactics are not possible in a "skirmish" environment. Back to the THREAD TOPIC : Perhaps www.airsoftsniper.co.uk could do with a way to allow "INTERVIEWS" of players who have to all answer the same 10 questions (in only so many words)? Questions include "favoured rifle and why" , "best tip" , "things to avoid" etc..... Which are then displayed in easy to cross reference format for each question. Wild idea I know but would show how diverse this can be.... Link to post Share on other sites
boardslide113 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Im going to review the HFC VSR-11 soon which ive just recieved, all ready the stock feels nicer than the TM stock. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am very surprised to hear that. Everything I have heard says the stock feels very toyish even more so then the TM stock. I look foreward to reading your review. Link to post Share on other sites
TDS Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 TDS : AEG are inferior platforms for extreme long ranged shooting but must say the TM M14 does impress me. Remember I come from a distant background when Airsoft was building your own kit rifle, that bog standard fired 5m. HOP did not exist. With our tinkering they got a decent chance of a hit in 25m ..... so I am easily impressed . I have seen the video of your site (in your sig) and it appears full of what I can only call targets. No offence but it looks like a target rich environment for a player with any ability in stealth/concealment. What works well in your environment of higher powered rifles and AEG is very different from many UK sites sub 1 joule limits. Although I did notice someone said that WYNAL are lowering their limit to 400fps and presume this will force a change to your game? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its not as target-rich as the videos would have you believe.. I mean when you have 100+ people onsite and a bunch of cameras, you get alloooot of footage but only enough good stuff for a 5 minute video of when it all hits the fan. Site limits have allways been 400, with 500 on bolt actions, average aeg is around 350 (very few actually push the 400 envelope), the bolt limit, if I get my way, will be pushed up to about 525, simply because its a pain in the butt to get a tanaka rifle into the 490's on green and that is what a majority of the bolt actions are. Next year we are limiting bolt actions on each faction within a game, and sniper teams are going to have seperate objectives and roles from the rest of the faction, mostly for gameflow reasons, as an increasing number of people go into the superior accuracy/bolt action range, there was decided to be a need to limit those numbers for the fun of all, the "all rifleman" unit i let during one op that took on 10-1 odds with stride, made this pretty apparent, the advantage a good powered bolt action has over an aeg, expecially in numbers, is too great. snipers are going to be used entirely as a recon and balancing force at the will of the event organizers in order to help gameflow. My role next year.. well i'm hanging up the K98 and being a teacher/mentor for most of the ops, the plan is I will train sniper teams for the new set of objectives and "specops" style play, being the 3rd man of the team, its my job to relay objectives and such, as well as bail the team out if they get into trouble, as such, I'll be fielding some sort of automatic with good capacity, either a g36 i just picked up or a fancy blowback rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 .... your going to snipe alreast a few unsuspecting people this year you know that and WNYAL is not target rich... Its complete mayhem and the way objectivs are set up you will only see one to 5 people at most in a hours time most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 apologies for going off topic again (save me opening a new thread just for this and this was mentioned earlier in this thread too) so a designated marksman... is it someone with an AEG and a sniper rifle or just someone that likes to rush in with just a sniper rifle? because i only have a VSR and that's about it sold everything else Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Back to the THREAD TOPIC : Perhaps www.airsoftsniper.co.uk could do with a way to allow "INTERVIEWS" of players who have to all answer the same 10 questions (in only so many words)? Questions include "favoured rifle and why" , "best tip" , "things to avoid" etc..... Which are then displayed in easy to cross reference format for each question. Wild idea I know but would show how diverse this can be.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lee, i really like this idea, im going to set up a thread now for people to offer questions, then ill pick 10 questions. I am very surprised to hear that. Everything I have heard says the stock feels very toyish even more so then the TM stock. I look foreward to reading your review. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was first impressions, i thought as i picked it out the box mmm nice weight and the stock felt ok, after actualy looking at the seam lines which are very visable and taking the reciever and outerbarrel off and seeing the 'inside' work, of it campled together i changed my mind, how ever its more than suitible for a base gun, and with a spray job would hide the feel and look a bit better. apologies for going off topic again (save me opening a new thread just for this and this was mentioned earlier in this thread too) so a designated marksman... is it someone with an AEG and a sniper rifle or just someone that likes to rush in with just a sniper rifle? because i only have a VSR and that's about it sold everything else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> could be either or both. I to no longer have an AEG, i used to use mine in the first game to warm up then swap straight over to my Rifle on the 2nd game, after realising a STAR SA80 was a tad expensive to use for 1 game a month (game not day) i decided to sell it. been toying with the idea of a TM M14 but not been swayed yet I play mainly as a DM with some games sniping, it depends on the game and the duration of the game. If its an hour long game and were playing in the building area of my site ill ditch the ghillie, possibly keep the head part on if we using any scrub land. and ill work as a DM and use comms with team mates to inform them of the buildings and areas i can see the enemy. if were playing a long game on the whole site then ill take my ghillie with me, i dont mind going through the building area with it on if im heading to the scrubland other side or if im planing to ex back to where i came. ive not seen your site so im not sure what its like, but each site is different, at FFZ i played alot more sneaky and ghillie was more in use due to the size and terrian (roll on the 3rd cannot wait ) so do what works at your site, not what some one tells you to do, at the end of the day its your game, and we all play it differerntly. Link to post Share on other sites
fvzz2 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 i've not seen your site so i'm not sure what its like, but each site is different, at FFZ i played alot more sneaky and ghillie was more in use due to the size and terrian (roll on the 3rd cannot wait ) so do what works at your site, not what some one tells you to do, at the end of the day its your game, and we all play it differerntly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the bauer (sorry for just useing the end of your post ) m8 i think this last bit about doing what works and not what people tell you is some of the best advice i have seen for a long time Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Right theres bin bit of an update, the sites been changed to a blog style site so content can be added alot easier, this means folk its time to join up and start erm, posting get some reviews up, any guides you have get them up, for the time being image will have to be put up on imageshack.us or photobucket then linked into your article via html the code is: <img src="http://imagelocation.com"> so what are you waiting for and please visit our sponsors Bauer Link to post Share on other sites
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