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Hey guys, Im having an issue with my l96 and I havent found a good solution to it yet. I currently have a UTG with a PDI hopup and Prom m14 TB barrel installed. I ordered Madbull's 60 degrees blue hop up rubber for it and installed it, and when it fired, it would hold the bb in place and give that jamming sound (obviously beacuse it is jammed). It takes about 3 cycles of dry fire to shoot it out at reduced velocity. I figured it was beacuse it was a bit too hard for the stock spring (shooting at about 475 with .2's, I am using .30's, KSC perfects). I then installed an ICS regular hop up, and it shot wonderfully. I mean, dead on to the scope once zeroed. I would leave it alone for a day or two, pick it up and shoot it on the same settings, and the gun would have no hop up. The first time this happened, I adjusted it and got it to where I kind of wanted it, then after 4 mags, the hop up would fully engage and go super high. I put it back to where I wanted it, got it perfect and shot it again. Left it alone for a few days again and the same thing happened. This time, I simply shot a few mags through, 4-5, and got it on again. This is frustrating as I shouldnt have to do that. Has anyone had this issue? Is there a specific hopup rubber i should buy for the fps i currently have?

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Hrm, so I'm having trouble with my SW M99. Sometimes when I cock it, the trigger doesn't like to activate, and it acts as if it's on safe. I have to remove the magazine, and cock the rifle again in order to fix this. It also sometimes decides that it doesn't want to be cocked, and it takes a ton of strength to actually cock it when it does that.

 

Since it's an APS2 system, does anybody have any clue as to what could cause these problems in any APS2 system?

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Hi ho chaps.

I am after a pic of the Maruzen l96 fitted with

http://fire-support.co.uk/product-info.php?id=3237

that fitted.

 

How does it fit ? I already have the maruzen silencer adaptor and silencer, but I would love to have that on instead.

Edit : Found a couple, more welcome tho!

You still need pic's?

 

That just goes on a -ve 14mm thread.

 

Must admit, the bit that disappointed me was that the allen bolt is purely for show.

You'd think they might have machined that groove in the bottom of it all the way through so you could fit the muzzle break and then nip up that allen screw to fix it in position.

Instead you just have to fit a rubber o-ring and hope it pinches up somewhere near the correct orientation.

 

Also, if you haven't bought one yet, be warned that the muzzle break is bloody heavy. Probably weighs nearly half a pound.

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Hey guys, I'm a little confused still. I've built a two VSR 10's but am new to the APS 2 systems.I'm Getting the Snow Wolf M 99. One guy on the Snow Wolf M 99 thread that owns the beast says is basically an ACM APS/APS 2 internally. If that is the case What parts listing should I be looking for? I see some parts for the APS 2 that say "not for use in type 96" IE trigger sear. I'm looking to put in a hop up chamber, upgrade the spring, spring guide, sears and put in an EDGI Tight bore. Now EDGI USA web site has a listing for Mk 96 warrior and Maruzen type 96 Tight bore in stock cut or PDI hop up cut. http://www.edgicustom-usa.com/products.php I get the difference from stock to PDI cut. What's the difference in Mk 96 vs type 96? They are listed as the same length and all. Is it the placement of the hop up or what? Second is the ACM more a kin to the Mk 96 Warrior or the Maruzen Type 96? Any help here would be great; I've been reading both threads but am a little fuzzy on the differences. An APS 2 education would help ;)

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Hmm, I took my L96 apart after owning it for a year (UTG clone APS2 96, I am the second owner). It was absolutely COVERED in some horrid R-S gun grease (something with a very low petroleum additives content from what I can tell, it didn't smell like white lithium or rem-oil, clp, etc, but it looked a lot like graphite grease of some sort), cleaned it all up... Then moved to the hop-up unit. Oh *fruitcage*! The bucking is ruined, seem like the previous owner left the hop-up on for god knows how long, and I broke the little plastic ring around the barrel, seems to serve basically no function, however. So Where can one get a new APS2 L96 bucking? Maruzen, clone, whatever. I just need a new bucking to get it working again, so I can sell it of (acquired a TM G-Spec for $30 :P )

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u can get an original Maruzen bucking at Den Trinity.

Its pretty hard to find on the site, think its on the "spare parts" section, if not do a search for "type 96" and look for it page by page.

 

That little plastic ring you (and everyone else..) broke is a spacer holding the barrel in place inside the hop.

I just covered the barrel with lots of teflon tape till it was jammed good and tight in there.

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I'm pretty sure standard AEG Brass barrel collars wold work too. Thanks for the heads up man! I'm sure the original maruzen would be an improvement over the UTG/ clone bucking anyway.

 

Gah: Dentrinity is out of stock on the maruzen part ( its part no. 7 for the maruzen type 96, only $7 too :( ), anyone know of another place to get it? My search foo has failed me. Worst comes to worst I'll try to contact UTG/LEapers to source a spare one.

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Gah: Dentrinity is out of stock on the maruzen part ( its part no. 7 for the maruzen type 96, only $7 too :( ), anyone know of another place to get it? My search foo has failed me. Worst comes to worst I'll try to contact UTG/LEapers to source a spare one.

 

Damn! that was my "ace in the hole" in case my bucking died..

I'll tell you what- Pyramid air have China made type 96 triggers for sale, maybe they can get hold of some buckings too..

 

Anyway, when my bucking needs replacing ill just use AEG bucking,

They are shorter so I will add a metal/rubber bushing to extend it.

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I removed that small part so my guns works a little bit better. Hooray!!!!!!!! I might try to buy a harder nub and bucking on my stock barrel. Since I've upgraded the ###### out of it so far I think the bb just flies thru the nub without allowing it to spin because it's too soft. I have an aero chamber so I'll be adding that when I get my TBB. My local shop doesn't have much in stock, which ones do you think might work on the stock barrel?

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I just ordered a Well/Warrior L96 to play around with and I've already looked into some potential upgrades. I was just wondering if these would fit and if they are good upgrades?

 

Hexagon Production Hop Up Unit - $25

http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=1371

 

Hexagon Production Barrel Spacers - $7

http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=1370

 

Prometheus 6.03mm 500mm TB - $62

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/pa...-m14-500mm.html

 

Prometheus HARD HU Bucking - $10

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/pa...-hard-type.html

 

Or would you do something different?

 

If I share the shipping with a buddy who also has a Well L96 the total cost (per person) incl. shipping would be $129 (£87=€85)

 

 

 

 

 

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The barrel is problematic because it has M14 cut, but the HP hopup uses standard AEG cut. Guarder 500mm barrels are good, because they have both M14 AND standard cut. On the other hand, prommy barrels are better quality. You may try a 509mm prommy barrel and a silencer adapter or something that lengthens the outer barrel by about 10mm.

Also I don't like the prommy hard rubber. I had one and it never worked well in any gun. (520 FPS AEG, 500-580 FPS L96). The Firefly Hard AEG rubber is much better choice.

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Thanks Pendra for your reply ;)

 

So you suggest I would take:

 

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/pa...-aug-509mm.html and http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/wisha-9inch-sil...ype96-mb01.html ?

 

The FireFly hard AEG bucking is out of stock on EHA, how bout the Guarder ones (70° hard)

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/pa...ess-rubber.html

 

OR Systema one? http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/pa...up-packing.html

 

What about Element ones? Since they have those at Gunnerairsoft aswell

 

Thanks for the info :)

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That silencer for $20 look OK. It may even lower the sound level if it had proper foaming inside. This may also work in case you don't want to make you gun longer:

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-silen...96-14mm-cw.html

The Guarder 70 bucking is a solid performer. Nothing exceptional, but it gets the job done. The Systema worked better than the Guarder (more stable, more accurate). However it proved to be too soft for the 450+ FPS gun. It wore out in just a few month. The high FPS was no problem for the Guarder black.

I had element hopup rubber once. It was extremely soft, and tore in no time.

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