TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 (edited) Have to agree, I hate seeing posts where someone says "Cheers for that advice/link/whatever" then the person responds with "Give me rep points!" Surely, rep points are given out if you think the person deserves them, not because they've DEMANDED them? And I also dislike this whole "you give me a point and I'll give you one" and the "give me points to cancel out my bad rep" thing. That said, I think most people can handle this system reasonably and are doing. Now, if people can just understant that you can't give out negative points just because someone gave you one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yus indeed. Whats the point in giving a neg point, when theres a 99% chance the person will give you one back in retaliation? The rep points that tick me off are the "heres a rep point, because you're a mate " Yeah, that really makes a difference to a stranger who reads your profile the first time.. (Also, check my rep points.. do you think +1 rep point for "PIMP" makes me more respectable?) Edit: Infact the only decent rep point I got was from IronWolf about the reviews. The rest are just garbage.. But it can't be erased can it? Edited February 27, 2005 by TaQ Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Although I should really not care about rep system as its trying to quantify the unquantifiable, Marlowe's point still makes me laugh. Plus its kind of amusing to see what people do when they get down to -14. Link to post Share on other sites
General Sweetpants Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I really dont give a *beep* what you *fruitcage*ers say,the rep system and the warnings. Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I really dont give a *beep* what you *fruitcage*ers say,the rep system and the warnings. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So in essence you want to be banned? Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 People who don't care about forum rules should think about staying. Anybody who feel that retaliatory rep was given should report it. Giving negative rep without a valid reason is a breech of forum rules and can result in warning points. Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Rider Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Watch his rep go down and down.It's dropped four points in 20 minutes. Part of me feels like starting a pool on how low it gets before he get banned for spamming/flaming. Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Any system is open to abuse, the rep system like anything else can be abused, but then again it takes a few seconds for me to log in and delete false points and ban/warn/suspend someone. Link to post Share on other sites
TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Indeed it does, but it's just more work for you in the end mate. Will you be removing "spam" reps? Such as "haha you cracked a good joke, have a rep point"? Or will they be left on? *light bulb appears ontop of head* I suggest a rep point mod! (If that hasn't been thought of already..) Link to post Share on other sites
FeeFyeFoeFum Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I thought when the 'rep' point system was proposed and implemented, it was intended to be used as a guide as to how 'good' or 'useful' someone was with regards to airsofting issues. Wether it be good advise, being friendly, etc. What it seems to be in a lot of cases (not all mind, but a lot) is mates patting their other mates on the back, sort of old boy network really. Many rep points are 'they gave me rep point, so here's one back again.', 'Is a really good guy.', etc. Not really useful as a guide as to someones knowledge or attitude on this site or airsofting in general. Just my impressions mind.... Link to post Share on other sites
TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I thought when the 'rep' point system was proposed and implemented, it was intended to be used as a guide as to how 'good' or 'useful' someone was with regards to airsofting issues. Wether it be good advise, being friendly, etc. What it seems to be in a lot of cases (not all mind, but a lot) is mates patting their other mates on the back, sort of old boy network really. Many rep points are 'they gave me rep point, so here's one back again.', 'Is a really good guy.', etc. Not really useful as a guide as to someones knowledge or attitude on this site or airsofting in general. Just my impressions mind.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brooklyn holla back. Heres a rep point for such a brilliant opinion.. ....That was a joke. I don't go round patting peoples backs, I'm not like that. But honestly, I reckon it's getting ridiculous. Mods like Nuno do their job, then he gets a negative by an angry member. Is there any need? Link to post Share on other sites
FeeFyeFoeFum Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Brooklyn holla back. Heres a rep point for such a brilliant opinion.. ....That was a joke. I don't go round patting peoples backs, I'm not like that. But honestly, I reckon it's getting ridiculous. Mods like Nuno do their job, then he gets a negative by an angry member. Is there any need? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you really are just joking, but just in case - me post wasn't aimed at any individuals (ie you TaQ), just what I have seen from viewing the rep points given to members in general. It makes the system fairly pointless and just waters it down to the point of uselessness when people are giving points for telling jokes and none for giving sound advise on airsoft... Link to post Share on other sites
TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I think you really are just joking, but just in case - me post wasn't aimed at any individuals (ie you TaQ), just what I have seen from viewing the rep points given to members in general. It makes the system fairly pointless and just waters it down to the point of uselessness when people are giving points for telling jokes and none for giving sound advise on airsoft... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bleh? I was joking you silly! I never thought your post was aimed at me in the first place lol. Yeah I've been snooping round looking at rep points too.. I see what you see. "uselessnessness" plus it's another something to be ontop of, like the post count as I said before. Thing I don't get is, I've seen you feefye as a member well before I joined up, and I see you giving good advice and infomation to the forum, but yet I see you don't have one positive rep point. All the old members of Arnies aren't really put in the limelight because of the lack of rep points they have (and then you get new members who just post off-topic drivel who have 10+ points.. ) Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 (edited) Can I make a request? - Remove the postcount system. - Remove the reputation system PERIOD, and return back to just the good / bad trades thread approach. (*Edit* Main reason for this is that I've got loads of feedback, which is great, and for which I am truly grateful, as it shows people don't think I'm a complete fruitcage, but I then feel guilty and that I'll antagonise people if I don't do the same back, and so feel honour-bound to return the favour. The reputation system was a nice idea, but it's not really ever going to work, as it'll just become another method of gaining 'prestige' for some people, rather than simply having the CONTENT of your posts speak volumes about you.) - Give us all something more important to complain about, like say, issuing subscription fees... (I was joking about this last one... ) Edited February 27, 2005 by Marlowe Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I'm not removing the post count system. There's no "system" it's just a tally of how many posts someone has made. It'd make far more sense to remove people permenantly from the forums that think that a post count amounts to anything other than the number of times they have posted. As listed in the guidance I stuck up for the rep system it's only to give users feedback on their posts on the forum, not for anything else. That's why you can only leave feedback from a specific thread or post (as it's recorded where you leave it from). People abusing the system will just end up getting themselves banned - that's life really. You can't stop people doing stupid things, sadly there's no way to filter out idiots or idiotic actions on the internet. If there was it'd be more popular than that stupid free iPod system. Link to post Share on other sites
TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 (edited) *Looks at Arnies post count..* .....You were saying..? *Gasp!* you editted your post.. Edited February 27, 2005 by TaQ Link to post Share on other sites
FeeFyeFoeFum Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I don't think the post count system is really too much of a problem. Especially with posts in the off-topic area not counting towards it, it is just a rough guide as to how many times a person posts in other areas. Some people are prolific posters (many times in one thread), others might only post once, saying all they need to say in that one post. Different horses for different courses. The reputation system just doesn't do what it says on the outside of the tin. Oh, on a side note, I think all 'Arnaholics' should be able to change their text under the avatar, regardless of post counts. Nudge,nudge..... Link to post Share on other sites
TaQ Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Ummmm... You are granted that privilege once your post count reaches a certain hundred...... 500 IIRC? Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hehe, fair enough. I had no belief that either would be removed, as I appreciate that a lot of effort has gone into their implementation. However, I've never been one to not express my opinions... Link to post Share on other sites
andthestoryends Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 nothing wrong with that. If you didnt express it, nobody would know it existed. Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Opinions and thoughts are always good. I like to know what people are thinking as after all without feedback I'd not know the best way to go about certain things Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 It'd make far more sense to remove people permenantly from the forums that think that a post count amounts to anything other than the number of times they have posted. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You wouldn't have a forum There seem to be an awfull lot of people that think a big postcount makes them a better shot, more inteligent, more attractive to women, larger in the trouser contents etc. Link to post Share on other sites
McMadkat Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 (edited) Slight problem: are you saying that people with less than 50 posts cannot add rep points?? I just have bought some stuff from people with less than 50 posts, so they won't be able to leave me good feedback.......... It there anyway that we could get the mods to add the ppints for me when the stuff arrives??? McMadkat P.S. There seem to be an awfull lot of people that think a big postcount makes them a better shot, more intelligent, more attractive to women, larger in the trouser contents etc. Arnie has a postcount of 500,000+, what does that make him? Edited February 28, 2005 by McMadkat Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 A goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. Like Rhino. As for the post count, I don't think anyone should be that bothered. It's what you post, not how much. (The number of women I've said something similar to that to ) Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Rider Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 (edited) I do think that the rep system works, pretty much, given that you should be posting accurate reasons for WHY that Rep was given. I don't ever expect to be given Rep for my advice or my behaviour. It's a nice bonus, and makes me feel warm and fizzy when it happens. I will only rep someone if they have done something out of the ordinary, or brightened my day. Marlowe got rep added because he is a great contributor to these forums. I actually felt guilty when I got a rep point back in return, because I didn't feel I deserved it. Edited February 28, 2005 by Ghost_Rider Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I accidentally gave And The Story Ends a positive reputation point for an unhelpful comment. Could you change it to a negative point? Also, he replied with a negative point even though the point I gave him was in accordance with the rules. I even cited what he said and said it was unhelpful and sarcastic. So far, I only see this system abused with people able to freely give each other points without much moderation. Perhaps a moderator should be assigned to clear reputation points? Link to post Share on other sites
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