Arnie Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Email AI and ask if there's a local stockist in the area. Buying direct from Canada is simple though, I know of several folks that have simply sent Paypal payment and recieved the goods in a simple cardboard packet within days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Hi everyone. Does anyone know a reliable shop in the UK willing to ship propane to France. Cause at mjtcontrols, propane seems to be expensive. As we can get a 1 liter bottle of ultrair for only 10€, here in France. The site says "PROPANE CYLINDER 14.1oz", I managed to find it's nearly 400ml. Am I right ? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadMax Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Hi everyone. Does anyone know a reliable shop in the UK willing to ship propane to France. Cause at mjtcontrols, propane seems to be expensive. As we can get a 1 liter bottle of ultrair for only 10€, here in France. The site says "PROPANE CYLINDER 14.1oz", I managed to find it's nearly 400ml. Am I right ? Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 400g = 14.1oz Green gas cans are marked with 1000mL which is pretty bogus. I posted on another forum about this awhile ago: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.ph...ht=taiwanese+mL I later weighed the difference between new and empty GG cans and found that cans contain around 270g of propane which is significantly less than the 400g (bernzomatic cans) or 465g (coleman brand) fill mass in fuel propane tanks. Even if you don't believe the weight difference results, measure the exterior dimensions of a green gas can and you'll find that they can't even contain 1000mL of volume. You can weigh the difference between full and empty cans with a digital scale. If you don't have one, bring your cans to a post office or even a grocery store and borrow theirs for a minute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Well thanks for the link. But volume may change with temperature and pressure. Well I have a bottle of 1000ml of ultrair, smaller than a 800ml HFC green gas one Anyway, do you know a canadian retailer shipping Coleman or Bernzomatic to France ? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadMax Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Well thanks for the link. But volume may change with temperature and pressure. Well I have a bottle of 1000ml of ultrair, smaller than a 800ml HFC green gas one Anyway, do you know a canadian retailer shipping Coleman or Bernzomatic to France ? Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, you print the volume of a containers contents in the sold state. A can of pop contains 341mL even though the gas dissolved in the pop expands past the initial volume of 341mL. 1000mL has nothing to do with the contents of green gas cans. It's an arbitrary value slapped on. The contents of GG cans is not equal to 1000mL inside the can and it expands well past 1000mL if you inflate a bag with it. Sorry, I don't know of any retaillers of propane who ship to France. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) By the way, MadMax, how´s the duster gas adapter progressing? I´m asking because propane is not available in my country (in suitable containers), but there are lots of domestic computer duster gas available. And it´s cheap. Edit: Also we´re at the moment possibly facing a total ban of Green Gas (bottled for airsoft purposes by airsoft manufacturers), so we might run out of options soon. Edited May 16, 2005 by Vektor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadMax Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 By the way, MadMax, how´s the duster gas adapter progressing? I´m asking because propane is not available in my country (in suitable containers), but there are lots of domestic computer duster gas available. And it´s cheap. Edit: Also we´re at the moment possibly facing a total ban of Green Gas (bottled for airsoft purposes by airsoft manufacturers), so we might run out of options soon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> gah. Delays after delays. I think production should start tommorow and take a couple days. then I have to hound my webmaster into helping me get them onto the site. I may be putting together my own website addition in the interim which will be a decided break from the usual look of my site. My work is significantly kludgier looking than my webmasters work. Old dog new algerbra problem. I can gnaw stuff out of metal and plastic, but the last time I tried to machine a webpage, things went funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'm looking at these propane adapters, but I can't help thinking... 1 - Propane is flammable 2 - I'd use it in full-metal guns 3 - Metal-on-metal has the potential for sparking Couldn't a spark from the metal-metal contact send the whole lot up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
visionviper Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) propane is the same as green gas. green gas only has a but of silicone oil in it though. anyways, a good place to get the propane adapter in the states in http://airsoftatlanta.com Edited May 17, 2005 by visionviper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 But some people disagree. It would seem that some brands of green gas aren't propane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 All forms of Airsoft Green Gas seem to be flammable anyway and I've never heard anyone blowing up their airsoft guns from using it. The chances of a spark coming from your full metal airsoft gun are slim to none. How often do sparks fly from your full metal guns? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) I doubt you could cause sparks. The metals are too soft. BTW, I've not seen ANY evidence that Green gas is NOT Propane, only that some IS! Cheers. Edited May 17, 2005 by snowman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Heh ok then guys, I'll push this further with my dad (a chemist doing safety data work for a transportation company, so that figures ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 BTW, I've not seen ANY evidence that Green gas is NOT Propane, only that some IS! Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, love the double negative usage, sure took me a whole minute to understand what you are trying to say there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
^cRYpTic^ Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I got my adaptor last week. The one thing that prevented me from frequently using my GBB was I didn't like wasting Green Gas, which costed me $21.00 a can. Now that I don't have to deal with that (I can propane that holds 2x the gas for $2.35) I run around with my GBB alot! These things are great. But beware, Propane smells awful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 These things are great. But beware, Propane smells awful! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? You mean the adaptor did NOT come with a gas mask?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted May 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Technically propane doesn't smell, it's a perfume additive that's added so people can smell it. Some stuff smells better than others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H&K Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Ah, love the double negative usage, sure took me a whole minute to understand what you are trying to say there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> lol. i know what you mean! "...means yes...means no..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
^cRYpTic^ Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Technically propane doesn't smell, it's a perfume additive that's added so people can smell it. Some stuff smells better than others. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whatever it is that Coleman adds to their propane tanks is absolutely disgusting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oscar el Loko Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 I own a v4 version. Unfortunately, it is no compatible with the fittings of the big (11Kg) propane containers. It seems imposible to here find propane disposable cans that fit with this adapter, the screw is different. Maybe the solution is use an A2 + F276130 adaptors like its said in this page. That torch seems screwed on a disposable gas container. Any comments or ideas? Or are we dommed to buy "green gas" until we burst? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oscar el Loko Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 I own a v4 version. Unfortunately, it is no compatible with the fittings of the big (11Kg) propane containers. It seems imposible to here find propane disposable cans that fit with this adapter, the screw is different. Maybe the solution is use an A2 + F276130 adaptors like its said in this page. That torch seems screwed on a disposable gas container. Any comments or ideas? Or are we dommed to buy "green gas" until we burst? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oops, I forgot to add the link, here it is http://www.artglass1.com/hotheadr.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corvid Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Email AI and ask if there's a local stockist in the area. Buying direct from Canada is simple though, I know of several folks that have simply sent Paypal payment and recieved the goods in a simple cardboard packet within days. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup, I ordered one and it came 5 days later. Not bad at all considering how far it had to come! It cost me about £23 (includeing the silicone oil) and has very nearly payed for itself already! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfesbane Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Hi there guys ran both my two sidearms TM92 berreta and we M1a1 on propane no problem but need a adpator for myself as use friends where can i get on in uk? and what sort of price and will it be plastic or metal?? Thanks for help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A Tobias Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 they should be about 24 bucks the current generation is all plastic but as long as it is treated well it should last it also comes with a spare fill tip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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