docs90 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Loads of info from around page 60 on here upwards about co2 rigs , i even think iirc there is a co2 thread on this forum Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I found it great in temperatures around 0C which was my main reason for investigating the subject. I only use my co2 rig on the target range, if I am honest. I only have one mag for it (fitted with different impact plates). I still really like green gas for warmer temperatures, just because of the ease of reloading. I don't like hoses and all that extra distraction from gaming itself. Green gas is simple and pretty effective, unless you are hoping for extreme range consistancy. My tanaka still nails 70 yards consistantly, which is often ample for many gaming situations. Although the spring gun, is still king, at being simple and highly dependable, to hit the long shots. I'm talking VSR/BAR of course So my advice, is either stick with green gas, or, look at HPA and the better advantages of consistancy and number of shots. Good Hunting Link to post Share on other sites
dankarumanov Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 The idea is to make all the co2 and regilator to fit in magazine housing (preferable like m4 mag). But nothing beat green gas in term of ease of use. Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I've got a Tanaka M700 on the way to me, second hand. Just one quick question that I think I already know the answer to, will the KJW mags work with the rifle, and if so, are they worth using? Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Don't buy the KJW mags. They are BAD in all ways. They have ridiculous springs for the BB's and tend to scratch your pellets on the lips with the massive force involved. They are not consistant at delivering gas. Invest in a tanaka mag instead. Be sure to get the VSR hop conversion kit and new barrel, with 9ball VSR rubber if you want the gun to perform well. Good Hunting Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 At £50ish each new I was really hoping that wouldn't be the case. It's only got the one with it, but never mind beggers can't be choosers I guess. Thanks for the help Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 So I tested my latest purchase today. A few odd things have come to light. At the chrono it read 984fps...which I suspect *may* have been an error. The bolt is kind of difficult to work when it's being lifted which I attribute to the previous owners bad spray painting (Leaving the bolt in place and not covering it with some tape), heavy trigger and my personal favourite, a hop that doesn't want to...well, hop. The adjustment screw seems to be bent and doesn't actually appear to adjust anything. Such a shame it's playing up, was hoping to use it next weekend Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 harsh. Tanaka's are not pick up and play rifles. Sounds like it has the power spring or bolt fitted and hence why the odd chrono result and heavy lift of the bolt. I advise you get the original tanaka hammer spring fitted inside the bolt.... it can easily reach 600fps on a warm day, which is more than enough and makes it far more durable in the long run. The trigger being heavy is not a good sign either. Sounds like its been tinkered with, which is often a bad thing. take the hop adjuster screw out and straighten the end, if bent. Get the VSR hop conversion kit, 9ball VSR rubber and VSR 555mm inner barrel if you want it to shoot like a sniper rifle. thats important due to the very limited number of shots in the mags. So plenty to do and invest in Good Hunting Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hey guys, I decided to upgrade my KJW M700P a bit. Taking it apart i have noticed that the barrel floats all the way to the end with no spacers. Will any spacers on the market fit it? (Like the PDI ones for the VSR) Or do I have to find someone to machine them for me? Also on that note, does anyone know of a shop that still stock outer barrels for KJW / Tanaka M700? Or am I out of luck? Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 You don't need barrel spacer with gas guns since the don't produce any vibrations. As for barrels your best bet is to find the G&G heavy barrel or if you're lucky enough to find one Best Gun! I have a Best Gun 26inch fluted outer barrel that came with a 6.03 TBB, it's longer than stock sadly but not as heavy as the G&G, pluw it comes with threaded end cap! Here's a pic of it.. And a size comparison with my old AICS Wolf Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Right, I need help sourcing parts for my M700 Police, and hopefully you wonderful people can assist. What I need is the hop up mechanism. I've got the hop chamber and rubber, but that's it. Where can I get the rest of the parts from? I do have the hop adjustment wheel, but as I stated in a previous post it's bent and if possible I'd like to replace it. Also, does anyone have an English manual for it that they could send me? The only one that I could find is in Japanese. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites
Leshy Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Get a vsr conversion kit and a vsr hop and barrel. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/spartan-doctrine-chamber-conversion-kit-for-tanaka-m700-m40a1.html Dont think you can get a English manual! Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Doesn't the VSR conversion kit still require me to have a working mechanism in the first place? And I'd rather not get it just yet unless I really have to as the gun already has a decent tightbore installed Link to post Share on other sites
Leshy Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 All you need is the hop adjuster wheel! straighten it, if it breaks your beat. You wont get another one unless you make it. Rebuilding a standard tanaka hop is a waste of money and time. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 have a look at the parts diagram here http://www.kjworks.com.tw/photo/12918976173.pdf the KJW version is VSR compatable , and you can buy all the parts from KJW via email and paypal. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Currently Im building a "inegrally suppressed" short rifle using my tanaka m40a1. Im no mod junkie so I was hoping some of you could lend a hand. When it comes to barrels what can I use? I need something around 280mm. Can I use any barrel of that size or do I need specific ones for the tanaka? And is the VSR-10 barrel and hop conversion good? Can anyone recommend a bucking to go along with the conversion? Any help would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 VSR hop conversion is recommended as it allows you to use VSR barrels which are in general vastly superior in terms of accuracy when coupled With the VSR hop rubbers. The nineball bucking is very good and some also prefer the firefly bucking as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 You don't need barrel spacer with gas guns since the don't produce any vibrations. As for barrels your best bet is to find the G&G heavy barrel or if you're lucky enough to find one Best Gun! I have a Best Gun 26inch fluted outer barrel that came with a 6.03 TBB, it's longer than stock sadly but not as heavy as the G&G, pluw it comes with threaded end cap! Here's a pic of it.. Wolf Ok, thanks for the heads up. It seems G&G Heavy barrels are easy to find. On that note, whats up with PSG-1 Barrels? Are they VSR (KJW M700) Compatible? I have seen a manufacturer (I think Action Army) claim that their barrel fits both PSG-1 and KJW M700... Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Awesome, thanks. Seems that will solve all my current issues. Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Ok, thanks for the heads up. It seems G&G Heavy barrels are easy to find. On that note, whats up with PSG-1 Barrels? Are they VSR (KJW M700) Compatible? I have seen a manufacturer (I think Action Army) claim that their barrel fits both PSG-1 and KJW M700... PSG-1 used standard AEG cut barrels, KJW uses VSR cut barrels, basically you don't need to buy the hop up conversion with the KJW to use VSR buckings and barrels ans you would with Tanaka. Wolf Link to post Share on other sites
ListerOfSmeg Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 have a look at the parts diagram here http://www.kjworks.com.tw/photo/12918976173.pdf the KJW version is VSR compatable , and you can buy all the parts from KJW via email and paypal. Jim Ahhh thank you. It looks like I need parts #17, #18 and #19, does that sound right? Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 My advice is to just get the VSR hop conversion kit, that replaces most of the tanaka hop mechanism. You need a new inner barrel and 9ball hop rubber.... it will almost shoot like a laser (VSR10) if you get it setup well. I suggets not to go down the KJW route, but it's upto you and is probably far cheaper. Good Hunting Link to post Share on other sites
Leshy Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Told him he's not interested, I installed a king arms hop (very hard) I'm still tweaking the accuracy but i was putting .40 @ 3.3j through a 4th story window at 90 meters, using google map labs measuring tool. I'm not 100% convinced still need more testing, laser range finder needed to verify. But the VSR conversion is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites
jdizzle921 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Not that it needs any more confirmation, but definitely agreed on the Nine-Ball bucking. It's well worth the few extra bucks. Forewarning on the Falcon series of VSR rubbers as well. I tried out a few in my M700 and had some terrible results with maybe 2 out of 5 BB's not even getting past the bucking itself. Quick question......has anyone ordered any M700/M24 series replacement parts from Tanaka or KJW directly with any success as of late? It seems getting in contact with KJW isn't too much of a problem, but I'm having trouble finding a way to contact Tanaka. I'm after a few little parts but most importantly a new outer barrel to do some tinkering with. Since I've nearly got my rifle finished with the exception of maybe a cheek rest or stock bag. Although it's a KJW base, most of the factory parts have been replaced with Tanaka or other after market brands. I run it on HPA with my 1961A-R kit. Also have an intermediary cutoff valve on there to make mag changes a bit more efficient in terms of speed and wasting air. Link to post Share on other sites
Geri Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Does anyone know where to get G&G steel outer barrel for m24? I need a "tange" or "tango" type, and not the fluted one... I googled arraud but I can't find it nowhere... Link to post Share on other sites
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