poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'm trying to get together a Basic British Loadout for a Falkland Island event in the Spring. Can anyone suggest what I need other than a DPM Uniform? Thanks PoorIE Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 An L1A1 SLR, '58 pattern webbing, Mk3 helmet and frostbite or trenchfoot. Link to post Share on other sites
skyler8158 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/70111p1.htm Granted it is just a 1/6th model, but DML does their research when making them. Link to post Share on other sites
Prolific Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 An SLR (self loading rifle) or FN FAL (which was basically the same thing, only the SLR was made under licsense in the UK). You'll want 58' pattern webbing, its olive drab and buckles together. Very cheap and very easy to get hold of. Cadet units are clearing them out now as they are replaced with PLCE 95' systems, there are literally tens of thousands of unwanted 58' pattern kits in circulation. Beret is a good choice, if not the helmets of the falklands war werent the Mk6 kevlar type.... this is me stabbing at the dark but maybe by the power of deduction it was the Mk3 that could be totally wrong though. Thats pretty much it! You'll want falklands war issue DPM as well, its not the same as the stuff in circulation now. There is also 84' DPM which came in just after the falklands war (as a result of the falklands war infact). edit: beaten to it! Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Wow 3 replies in one minute thanks guys. Link to post Share on other sites
Prolific Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/70111p1.htm Granted it is just a 1/6th model, but DML does their research when making them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> are those spats/gaiters around his ankles,? Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 They appear to be putties/puttys... http://cgi.ebay.com/A-PAIR-OF-WORLD-WAR-2-...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hmm. British Royal Marines would be cool, but I just pulled out the trusty "20th Century Military Uniforms" book I found that most of Argentinian supply was US Surplus. As I've got a late Vietnam Era US loadout I'll be wearing that. So any suggestions to make it more realistic? Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 An M1 winter coat, wool gloves and a wool balaklava as it's somewhat chillier on the Falkland Islands than it is in Vietnam. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 LOL I meant the webbing set. Thanks for the input Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 LOL I meant the webbing set. Thanks for the input <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well one doens´t neccessarily need an SLR or FAL. RM and SAS Troops were also using the M16. What you need depends on the unit you want to display. The stanard helmet was the MK IV (Turtle Helmet) The Paras used the "old" MKII para helmet (same as W2) and the first Pattern of new Kevlarhelmets just came into service (These were different to the actual ones). Both types of helmets were usualy camouflaged with tan burlab and a woolen OD helmet net. There were no DPM helmet covers. The Beret was prefered during the long distance marches and was worn in combat as well as it was more compfortable then the steelhelmet. But I´ve heard that many troops quickly switched the beret with the steelhelmet once the battle started especcially during the night battles . Standard Webbing was the Patt 58. Its said that the SAS also tried some Patt 70 Stuff. SAS and RM also used first issues of chestrigs in OD. Most troops used the DPM Pattern 68 Arktic Windproof Smock and Pattern 60 OD Trousers or DPM Patt 68 Artic Windproof Trousers. Standard issue boots were the Ammoboots together with a pair of woolen gaiters. (same as used since WW2 ) The Ammoboots proofed to be inadequate for the cold climates Falklands so many clever troopers bought commercial hiking or other military boots prior to the campaign. Argentine Forces used mostly old OD US Standard US m1 helmets with OD or sometimes with Woodland helmet covers or even helmtnets and m44 goggles. The standard Combatdress was M65 Jackets and trousers in OD or WL for SF Forces. According to my knowledge the Argentine webbing was not just simple US Issue as they used nearly the same infantry weapons as the british forces. FAL´s and also Sterling SMG´s. Some M3 Crease Guns and even K98 Mauser Sniperrifles could also be found. But one can identfy some LC Webbing on Pictures. Check out Ospreys Argentine Forces in the Falklands for some impressions. http://www.amazon.de/gp/reader/1855322277/...648#reader-link Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Berets were worn as there was an order to wear them so as to avoid friendly fire incidents. Link to post Share on other sites
Sao Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'm also putting together a falkands / ni / 80's era loadout So far I have KA FN FAL with RS L1A1 foregrip 58 pattern webbing 68 pattern DPM (std issue not arctic as I actually want to be able to skirmish in the summer without heat exhaustion) N.I gloves To come Headover or scrim scarf ( I have a shemagh but not exactly period) Puttees 80's era hiking boots of some description (again comfort over looks) Beret or wool hat Wooly Pulley Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Shemaghs have been "period" since world war 2 surely? Link to post Share on other sites
Sao Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Shemaghs have been "period" since world war 2 surely? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I mean as in I dont remember seeing any in falklands pictures, if someone can prove otherwise with photographic evidence I'll be well chuffed i do like my shemagh Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think they only became cool to normal troops via the SAS in the 80's or 90's Link to post Share on other sites
hammer-nb Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 " ... KA FN FAL with RS L1A1 foregrip ... "<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm planning on do the same for a Kiwi Vietnam loadout (SLRs were std issue). Any chance of some pics please of the foregrip and if it's not too much trouble, if you could give dimensions of the foregrip (on the FAL I mean) and of the space between the front sight and the receiver ... the wood foregrips I'm looking at look to be a bit short ... Cheers in advance Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Love those rubber over-boots and the civvie bergens in that first pic. Also if you want to look spot-on, grow a big floppy moustache. Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 The bergen in the middle (1st pic) is either SAS/Para or GS Bergen (£99.99 or £ 39.99 respectively) from Dragon Supplies. You may need to scroll the inset window down a little to find the items concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Actually according to my Uniform Guide most of the Argentinian supplies were US surplus. Mainly what was left over after Viet Nam. So Viet Nam Webbing with a Steel Helmet and a hooded Parka is acceptable. Along with Leather boots and several bandoleers of ammo... Link to post Share on other sites
Jimisin73 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 A tiny bit OT, but as I'm working on a loadout for the same event (I think), where might I find DPM in man sizes (ie xl, xxl) in the U.S.? My local Army Navy Surplus only has little people / women's sizes. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Ahh Sportsmansguide.com will occassionally have them or check eBay. I found it to expensive in large sizes. Like 30 bucks for a pair of BDU pants plus shipping to the states for a weekend event. You're talking about OP: Imperial Vengence right Jimsin? If you check MAAPR one of the people at the Advertisement Video game was selling several sets you might try asking his name one their... EDIT: Does anyone know what weapons the Argentine Army would have carried at this period? Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 I have my 68 DPM and 58 webbing on the way. I am with Sao, as in just getting regular combats, as I am in Hawaii, and don't want to pass out from the heat. I also have RS L1A1 furniture on the way. The Argentine army had FALs also, not too sure what other weapons they used. Link to post Share on other sites
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