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that's ok. use the english link on the left hand of page, then afterwards scroll down to the calendar and go back to 01-03-2011. Transration!
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kunlun,
I've used the PDI 6.05 375mm, fits right in. good overall performance and awesome max range for the system.
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looks like Echigoya is now doing a full package upgrade with FET install. I like how they are using the stock insert as the mount/heat sink.
anyone get the shortened CQC version from them yet?
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Where would you find the spring? Web site?
^^ look in Richard's sig.. ^^
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just did a MP5 HC for someone.
guarder polycarb vented pison head, PDI 140% spring, Kong Power 7.4V 1800mah 26C lipo pack.
.20g Excel cronos at 320-324fps, and nice and fast.
did a SAS HC with similar set up, PDI150%, on 11.1V pack, same velocity, but 32rds/sec. BEAST.
only bad part of that is that you will start to get wear and tear on the pison and gear set at 11V power. can't sustain fire too long too, it's a burst gun.
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mostly with the stock piston head, it's the o-ring that might be wobbling around a bit to not make a perfect seal during the cycling in full-auto.(due to the solid piston head face)
it still seals good enough to get the shot, but you will see it on the crono.
a vented piston head should do the trick. if you are keeping it fairly stock as is, try a Guarder Polycarb Piston Head. (the red one) it's light weight, and won't slow down piston stroke speed like the aluminum ones (slightly lower velocity readings, but better durability with AL)
vents keep the o-ring more stable on the forward stroke for sealing, and on the back stroke, helps to let in more air faster into the cylinder.
you should see a more consistent fps range after this.
and for the bioval's, I've noticed a little more variance on the QC for the BB's, try a bag of Excel .20's, that's what I always use for testing, very consistent QC and performance.
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Great job 'Snoop!
in regards to the burst shots in semi, it's from your battery's high burst rating, basically on a fresh charge, it will over-volt the system in semi, causing the burst. 3cell 11.1V packs with lower burst ratings will cause this as well after being charged too. it happens on normal AEG's too.
the fps variance is by the fact that the gears and piston are short stroked from normal piston and gear sets. add that the piston head is flat with no ports on the front, that will cause more turbulence in the air cylinder during cycling, it could be the bb's partly too.
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as far as the gear set and anti-rev latch, it's the same across the board for the recoil boxes. cylinder heads too I think, (have to re-open a G36 again to make sure
)pistons, air nozzles, hop units, spring guides, and tappet plates are the only gun-type specific. (for spring guide, -sort of, m4 versions are the only different type compared to rest)
bushings and cylinders are normal off the shelf AEG.
as far as the ak/g36/scar recoil engine is concerned, it's mechanically the same, just the recoil weight/block is different size/weight to gun type.
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YES.
or at least when I have the time to do another review
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AnakChan,
I knew you couldn't resist. Nice work!
interesting how they went about wiring it up due to the space limitations in the gun body.
looks like a fet can be installed, if it can fit in the stock, but you wouldn't want to take it apart again after you install it...
I would probably re-solder 20-22guage wire for the signal wires to keep it sorta neat and not take up too much room.
the piston is AK/G36. recoil weight is about same as G36 also.
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for those with Freedom Art Mag adapters:
http://freedomart.militaryblog.jp/e186254.html
I kinda like how sensei says it's not hard to shave down to make it fit, unless your lazy. (I think that's what he's implying, through my horrific translation skills)
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yes it does. here's some pics, my computer was acting up last time, so I couldn't u/l them.
sorry, pics kinda dark,
here ya go:
video:
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The grip options are a welcome thing, that way everyone can be more comfortable shooting this gun.
The lock seems to be pretty strong, and the fit is good too. Once the plate is on, it feels really solid.
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I'm going to have to speculate here 'cos I don't know what Tokyo Marui's thinking. However I don't think it's a matter of whether TM can or cannot do it. However I do like the bigger grip, it fits better in my hand. A 'quick' calliper measurement across, the VFC is 41.7mm with the TM at 44.8mm. Got my GF to hold it too and it is slightly but noticeably bigger.
I still haven't charged my batteries. Once I do I'll do an FPS test. Sorry, I don't have access to a decent range so I won't be able to do accuracy tests. I'll gut it later to see what's inside and will see if a MOE will fit the lower receiver.
looks like they're just taking the regular AR-type grip mold that they have and just inject the new color plastic for the gun. cost saving measure.
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Field striping the PX4 is the same as a Glock type pistol.
There are two release tabs on the frame, pull downwards, and push slide to separate from the frame.
Aftermarket parts are not available as of right now, however, as with most TM type guns, expect the larger manufacturers to start to make parts for this new platform.
In conclusion, the PX4 seems to go along with the same lines as other compact pistols. Great as a sidearm, and offering some new features not found on many of Tokyo Marui’s other pistols, it would be a worthy addition to a player’s load-out.
While the lack of aftermarket parts may hinder it immediately, if it is like the rest of TM’s line, players will not have to wait long to start customizing to their hearts content.
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Initial Impressions of the TM PX4 GBB Pistol
Tokyo Marui PX4
Length: 193mm / 7.6 inches
Weight: 834g / 1lb 13.4oz
Magazine Capacity: 25rds
FPS (0.20g): 295(Green), 225 (134a)
The latest offering from Tokyo Marui, the PX4 offers some new features to their GBB line. Built on a compact frame, it is a welcome addition to players familiar with gun types such as the SIG 226, HiCappa 4.3, and USP Compact.
Immediately, you will see that it comes with 2 extra back plates for the lower frame to fit almost any shooter’s hand for a better shooting position and comfort.
To change out the back plates, the player would depress the bottom of the magazine well, then, pulls the back plate away from the rear of the gun. The player may now attach a different back to suit their needs. The lower frame also incorporates a bottom rail to attach different accessories such as lights or lasers.
The PX4 uses a 25rd magazine of its own design. Gas capacity is comparable to all of TM’s double-stacked type magazines.
Velocity is on par for a compact type pistol from TM.
Testing was conducted with King Arms Green Gas and Excel .20g BB’s.
A Radar type chronograph was used to measure shots in an air conditioned space.
Measurements as follows:
Shot 1: 302fps
Shot 2: 300
Shot 3: 292
Shot 4: 298
Shot 5: 293
Shot 6: 285
Shot 7: 282
Shot 8: 281
Shot 9: 278
Shot10: 279
Subsequent shots hovered within the 278-285 range with Green Gas.
On 134A gas velocity ranged from 240 on the first shot to 220 with the magazine starting to cool noticeably.
Recoil is snappy and short, comparable to the Cappa4.3 and SIG226, but not as strong as the Desert Eagle and Five7 series guns from Marui.
Of note, during testing we noticed that the PX4 tends to expel more gas during shooting contributing to a slightly faster cool-down of the magazines and performance. Weather our particular gun or the series uses more gas remains to be seen in the long term.
Accuracy is TM consistent, the first target was with the gun straight out of the box, without hop adjustment or checking the sights. Shooting was with .20g Excel, with King Arms Green Gas. Targets were 8m away. Shooting was from a standing position with 2 hand support. (not scientific, but a more practical answer).
The second target is with the hop adjusted and sights corrected, same shooting position and distance, as well as gas and bb’s.
The PX4, being a compact design tends to shoot “flat” during snap-shooting and fast-draw situations. Balance is comparable to the USP Compact Pistol.
The safety also incorporates a de-cocking feature if the hammer is back in a ready position. Upon engaging the safety, it automatically releases the hammer to battery, this can be done with the magazine in and fully gassed.
The hop up is of a new design.
Removing the slide to access the hop system is no longer needed.
Access to the hop unit can be done with the slide locked in the back position. It is a dial type but fixed to the left side of the barrel and running parallel to the housing. It is colored a lighter grey for easier identification. Players with larger fingers or gloves may find this arrangement a little difficult to adjust the hop setting.
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NICE, Richard!
...so how much swearing/headaches/throwing things before you figured out what to do for the full stock? lol...
oh, found someone who took apart the ARMY clone and took pics. interesting, although the manual included states that the cut-out feature is there, there is NO cut-out latch system to this gun. (bottom of the post 3rd to last pic before the pics of the hop unit housing) also the pics with the exploded diagram do not show any cut-out lever on mechbox or bolt release.
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In sticking to Gunfighers808 style of Topic Title and Topic Description, this is a very quick initial review of the TM SCAR-L Recoil Shock AEG System released in Japan today. Even though it's released today, a lot of airsoft shops don't have them in stock as the 1st batch of bookings have already met the order quota. I managed to pick mine up in Frontier1, Akabane, Tokyo for Y41,860 (approx USD$504.74). That's actually a little more expensive than Echigoya's International site which advertises for USD$485.
Why, Thank You Sir!
I'm waiting for the Black version to release.
I'll wait till you can't hold back any longer and take out the gearbox for pics. I'm really curious to see if they amended or changed the adv. ver.3 box versus the 74mn and 36k to incorporate the cut-off switch and ambi-selector.
Awesome initial review!!
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are the coils actually binding to each other or to the sides of the walls? never had that problem yet.
mine is different problem, well maybe.
All of my standard mags tend to compress their springs rather fast now, that leads to a feeding issue. nothing a little stretching won't fix, but, finding I'm having to do that more frequently. granted, I've had them since they were day-1 released and are used a lot. but still......
maybe because of the double stack design, so the wider spring tends to compress more than the regular AEG stock mags I guess.
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The Army ships with Hicap magazine.
bah!... what's the point then? lol.......
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Richard,
should ask the guy with the Army to take pics of the mags too. see if it's exactly the same or a little different.
especially the feed top, cut off lever in back, if it has the 30rd feed block, and spring and follower.
if it's not too bad, at least we'll all get cheap mags out of this release
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The LE gun and stuff is pretty cool as a prize. Not a lot of companies do offer prizes for their customer base like that. If TM ever puts up one of its RC Godzilla or Mothra I'd be all over it. LOL
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Probably it's time to spin off a "Next Gen" V2 thread here now that there are so many next gen models. The custom topic is no longer limited to this Sopmod thread.
I thought it more of a rite-of-passage to read through the 72page and counting tome all of us have created.
but, a more streamlined thread with a few stickies about the basics may be needed to encompass the new and upcoming variants of our favorite system. what say everyone? your thoughts?
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tbsix,
nice! where's Big Blue? LOL
Initial Impressions of the TM SOPMOD M4 AEG
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some video goodness of the scar-H. from Echigoya.
so who's going to pop for this badboy? as much as I want one, with the Yen the way it is, it's just too expensive for me right now.
anyone in Japan on the pre-order lists? let us know how it is.