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On July 22nd, the Hong Kong retailer UN Company put on its facebook page an advertisement for the Umarex H&K Mk23. Available for $180 USD and spare mags at $40 USD.
Ordering - After seeing the advertisement on Facebook for the pistol, I put my order in on Saturday July 23rd for the Mk23 and one spare magazine. "Why don't you order domestically from the United States" some may ask. At the time, AirsoftGI was still on "Pre-Order" and many other retailers had not yet listed it. So I receive confirmation of my order the same day on Saturday a couple hours later. I then send my payment via PayPal for $250.80, shipping was a hefty $30.80 USD. Which is the usual going rate for an express mail package from overseas. My order was packed and shipped Saturday night and was off to the US Sunday morning. I receive my package on Thursday July 28th, 5 days after I place my initial order. Perfection.
Initial Unboxing - The Mk23 is contained in a box with the usual H&K logos and the "No Compromise" slogan we have been used to seeing the usual USP System 7 pistols shipping in.
Included with the Mk23 is the KWA H&K Mk23, a bag of sample bb's, a Hop-Up adjustment tool, a users manual, and one 26rd magazine. Something instantly struck me as soon as I opened the packaging. A metallic sticker with the text "This product is only for sale and purchase in Asia (except Japan and Taiwan)."
From Un Company, they shipped the pistol with the threaded tip of the barrel painted with a light orange paint. I was able to remove most of it with a little acetone and paper towel, but there is some left in the grooves of the threads. The trademarks on the pistol were also covered in the usual black putty some overseas retailers use. It peeled off easily and left no residue. Which made me think, since the trademarks are officially licensed do they need to be covered when shipped internationally?
Test Firing - I gassed up the included magazine and stepped into my garage to get a quick feel for the firing of the pistol. Upon the first shot, I hear a loud metallic "PING". Looking around and then back at the pistol, the mock extractor on the right side of the slide flew off! I found the piece 4 feet away from me on the floor. It snapped back in, but the little spring that was behind it was long gone.
But getting past that, the recoil was snappy and hard. Much better than the sluggish KSC's of yesteryear.
Build Quality - The KWA Mk23 has the same high build quality we have come to expect from KWA from their most recent releases. The aluminum slide has a stunning black finish with the trademarks being laser etched into it. The polymer of the lower frame is something new though. It has a semi-rubberized texture to it and differs from the lower frames of the USP series. The only disappointing feature about the pistol is that, like the System 7 USP's it ships with a plastic outer barrel.
Function - Just like the real steel Mk23, and the KSC, the ambidextrous safety switch can only be operated if the hammer is cocked. The de-cocker functions as it should, decompressing the cocked hammer. The ambidextrous magazine release is also easy to operate.
Markings - The pistol features full licensed trademarks from H&K and Umarex. The left side of the slide features "HK MK23 USSOCOM Cal..45" and an individual serial number. Mine is "110600198HK".
On the left hand lower frame of the pistol has a letter "F" inside a pentagon with "cal 6mm BB", and of course the obligatory "HK .45" on the grip.
On the right side of the pistol there are markings on the barrel which read "HK .45 auto." and a serial number. "25-094705".
There is also white text on the right side of the slide acknowledging licensed trademarks. It reads "Licensed Trademark of Hecker & Kock GmbH".
The right side of the frame also has "Heckler&Koch. Germany" In raised letters in the polymer.
On the bottom of the trigger guard reads "WARNING. Refer To Owners Manual"
Under the properiertay rail has "Heckler & Koch" "Germany" With another serial number engraved on a small metal plate.
Trademarks are also prominent on the magazine, with "HK.45" stamped on one side and the "HK" logo on the bottom.
Disassembly - Like any Mk23 or USP model, disassembly is fairly easy. Retract the slide about one inch and push the slide catch through the notch. One thing I was not fairly happy to see the return of was the small metal spring that is on the slide catch. I can recall almost losing this piece many times on my old KSC, and finally actually losing it.
After you pull the slide off you remove the recoil spring, which KWA decided to faithfully reproduce the double recoil springs and the green o-ring on the barrel.
After the spring is out, you are free to remove the barrel and inspect the gigantic NS2 system. To note, the barrel has 16mm CLOCKWISE threads. KWA has announced they are manufacturing their own suppressor, but the TM, KSC, or King Arms one should fit no problem. To reassemble, just repeat the process
A shot of the lower frame for those of you with the KSC's to see how similar they are.
I was kind of disappointed to see such wear already out of the box on the slide rails.
Chrono Reading - Will be done on SAT July 30th, 2011.
Skirmish Report - Will be done on SAT July 30th, 2011.
I will be attending a rec game this upcoming weekend and will fill these sections upon my return.
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Also, I wish the KJW M4 didn't have the hop up placed where it is since it makes it look unrealistic and why did they have to put a rubber band on there if it does nothing according to Donut? Does it perserve the parts or what?
There are other GBB systems out there bud. You made the choice to get a KJW and should have known well about the hopup dial placement before your purchase. Why is it there? Its easy to adjust, unlike the WA system where you would have to remove the front handguard.
And the rubber band keeps the piston cup from stretching too far and slipping off the piston.
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Well, I would want it to be the closest to the standard U.S. military loadout as possible. I heard the HK416 might be their next assault rifle.I have one question regarding a lubricant. I have heard Super Lube works pretty well. Do you guys know of anything in it that would mess up the internals or destroy the o-rings?Here is a link: http://www.restockit.com/3-oz-tube-super-lube-lubricant-(692-21030).html/I have heard silicon oil is too runny and it can get into the trigger mechanism and ruin it.
The military also evaluated the XM8 and SCAR series for use by our armed forces, but none of them passed trials. The M4/M16 wont be replaced for a long time...
And yes, superlube is EXCELLENT for KJW GBBRs. You only need to apply it to the piston cup and piston. And yes, silicone oil is too runny. But SuperLube is a gel, it wont run all over the internals of your gun.
And if your KJW is still giving you too many problems, PM me and I'll buy it off you.
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Redwolf now has this guy in stock.
I really want to get one. And right now I'm having to choose between this, or a buddy's Inokatsu M60E4 >.<
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Awesome comparison. The real and airsoft version are both on my "to-buy" list.
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Samuel, get a SPR or any sort of M16 length front end. Order a T-Hum M16 length tightbore and be sure to mod the M16 outer barrel correctly. A M4 + a scope does not make it a DMR. Especially seeing the KJW M4 inner barrel only goes until the front sight.
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I'm super tempted to pick up one of the EA Custom versions of this gun. Are there any reviews of the metal slide kit yet?
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/eac-marui-px4-storm-cnc-custom.html
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Sold off a lot of stuff and bought a Systema PTW!
Samson STAR-M 9 inch Mid-Length Rail w/ LaRue Index Clips
G&P ACOG
ARMS #40L Rear BUIS
TangoDown Vert Grip
Daniel Defense Sling Swivel
Magpul Foliage Polymer Trigger Guard
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Thank you so much for confirming that, I am anxious to start building this monster. Whats the longest inner barrel available, I dont want it to just look like an spr but function more like one, longer inner barrel and more accuracy that is. I know RA Tech only makes a 363mm one, thats the one I have in my existing KJW M4, and a cqb 250 something. How long is the one t_hum makes? and since you've already done this how much of the outer does the long inner fill up? Does it go all the way to the flash hider? Also what kind of accuracy are you experiencing? What weight bbs?
T-Hum can make you any length barrel that Madbull produces. I had a 503mm one (which is M16 length). It stuck out from the flash hider a couple millimeters, so I put an OPS suppressor on it.
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You guys think this SPR D-Boys front end would fit?
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=5719
Check out the larger photo, from what I remember when Ive taken my gun apart the inner barrel looks very similar. No delta ring, at least not the same type as on the stock KJW m4 but looks like it would fit.
How say you?
It requires minor modification to the barrel, but thats the exact kit I put on my KJW.
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Damn. Looks like I sold my KJW at the wrong time then...
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Just ordered one in Foliage from AirsoftGI. Cant wait until it gets here
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AEG outer barrels take minimal modification in order to work, simple as taking the AEG barrel and cutting it to be the same shape as your KJ barrel with a Dremel.
Inner barrels are sold by both T_Hum here on the boards and RA Tech. Making a DMR out of these guys is simple with a small bit of elbow grease
.Very true. I made a SPR Mk12 Mod0 out of mine with a T-Hum M16 length TBB. I didn't keep it like that for long though, I never did the research to see how to keep it semi auto only.
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Well, I've owned my KJW since May of this year. I've had an absolute blast with it, but its time for that to end. I recently sold it so I can fund the purchase of a Systema PTW.
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Too.... Many... Modern AR's. Lets take a step back in time =D
I posted in one of these AR thread a long while ago with my Tokyo Marui CAR-15. I said how I was going to make it a full metal rifle. Well, a few months and hundreds of dollars later I have this!
I've been having trouble with endcaps and such for the triangular handguards. So I need to find a real steel set. So my quick fix so I could use this at Op: Irene was a pair of well used XM177 handguards. So its still quite a "work in progress"
A photo of the lovely Colt trademarks.
And I also opted for the G&P early AR-15 body. Notice the lack of the brass deflector, and the bumps that protect the mag release.
And of course with a 20rd magazine.
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Bought one of these second hand. $250 shipped for the gun w/NPAS and 3 Green Gas mags. I have a couple questions;
1.) Will Magpul MIAD grips fit on this beast?
2.) Will the Magpul SSG selector replacements fit on?
Thanks in advance to whoever responds
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Finally encountered a problem with my KJW. After about 3000 rounds, my rubber band broke. So now I'm sifting through the thread trying to find the guide on how to make the replacement.
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I did some work to my KJW M4 and a D-Boy SPR front end. I now own a KJW SPR
I still need some things like a nice Harris Bipod, a new Pistol Grip, and some form of Optic. But I feel accomplished, the mods were very simple to do and took me no longer than 5 minutes.
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I recently ordered a new dust cover assembly from KJW, after paying, do they provide a tracking number or any confirmation that they have shipped something out?
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@dotty I had no trouble mounting a variety of hand guards on to the KJW. I installed a m16 length front end and with the triangular cap for the hand guards, m16a2 and m16a1 hand guards fit perfectly as well as the heat shield for my m203.
For any who saw the picture Bleumaglite posted, I'm trying to convert a KJW m4 into a GBBR M16A1. I installed the front end and flash hider no problem, I have a m16a1 pistol grip on the way, and a RS full stock.
I tried modding an AEG full stock, DO NOT ATTEMPT. You'll just butcher a perfectly good stock with no hope of ever mounting it solidly. The initial assessment and the reason why everyone has been having so much trouble with the RS stocks is the buffer tube thread incompatibility. I'm proposing to leave the original buffer tube on the rifle. I plan on taking the end cap off the tube and drilling a hole in the center for a bolt. There's about 4 cm of clearance between the end cap and the farthest back the bolt can go, so I intend to put a nut and washer and get a matching bolt to replace the upper mounting screw for the RS stock.
This is also true, about 2 weeks ago we tried an AEG stock. We ended up butchering it, and we have an RS stock on the way, updates in the upcoming week.
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KJW M4 with M203 is a teammates, mine is the plain jane M4.
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Hi guys. I am now the proud owner of a KJW/TK M4
I bought it used from a player who was in the need of some cash. So he sold it to me with the cradle O-ring piston and velocity reducer installed, and one small problem.
The only problem on this gun is the dust cover. It will not stay closed and has very little spring action to it. If someone could please show me photos of a full dust cover assembly on their KJW it could possibly help me diagnose my problem.
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Are the KJW M4's compatible with real steel pistol grips? I am not a fan of the bump in the regular M4 grips, and I would prefer to put a M16A1 straight style grip on it.
KWA H&K MK23 Socom
in Pistols (Gas)
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The mag release is much stiffer than the KSC. It doesn't take TOO much force to release it, but its an improvement over the KSC.
And I should mention that the sights are NOT adjustable. They aren't molded on, but they are not adjustable. The manual even says fixed front/rear sight.