[Ares Tavor Tar 21 Review]

No, is a standard short motor.

[MagPul PTS MASADA ACR]

The mold lines are just a minor detail. General look of this gun is great.

[MagPul PTS MASADA ACR]

My Masada arrived 2 days ago from Redwolf Airsoft.

Black, S/N 02517

 

1 washer (C22).

 

In this link you can find pics of my gun (around 90) with many close ups.

 

http://img194.imageshack.us/g/img9828wp.jpg/

[Ares Tavor Tar 21 Review]

What's your opnion on the KA nozzle? was gonna buy a load of different brands and see which was the best.,

 

also, why classic army piston? there pretty poor really.,

 

The King Arms nozzle works fine, nice airseal.

 

 

The piston is a CA reinforced with full metal teeth. Some modification is required (first tooth and some edges).

[Ares Tavor Tar 21 Review]

Disajim,

 

What brand of parts did you replace the problematic parts with? Then again, were you using an upgraded Tavor with Lipoly battery?

 

 

Replacements, nothing special.

 

CA Torque Up Motor

 

Shooter (Ares) Ventilated Piston head with bearings

King Arms Nozzle (M4A1/M16A2)

G&G Cold Resistant Hop up Bucking

CA Piston

 

 

No upgrades. Stock spring with a 11.1v lipo.

[Ares Tavor Tar 21 Review]

Piston broke yesterday

 

This is the list of replaced parts in my tavor:

Motor (original died)

Piston head (I put a head with bearings to reduce tension)

Nozzle (leaking air)

Hop up rubber (pierced by the "nub")

Piston (broke because of the rof... maybe)

 

I think those are the 5 parts that everyone is going to change in this gun sooner or later.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

I think my motor died because of the battery (11.1v) and because I use to shoot in semi more than in full auto. I didn't shoot more than 3000 bbs with the gun before the sudden death.

 

The motor failure is not a big problem. I was planning to change it before I bought the tavor, like also the nozzle and hopup rubber. Anyway I wasn't waiting to replace that important part so soon.

 

The ICS turbo 3000 (now installed in the tar21) completed almost 2 years in my AK working perfectly with a 11.1V Lipo, so I'm not sure about the quality of the Ares tavor's stock motor, especially after failing before completing 2 months of use. Or maybe I just got a defective one.

 

 

Anyway, I'm still happy with my Tavor.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Any feedback on installed spring vs power ? I have gotten slightly disappointing results related to spring rating. For example Guarder SP110 and CA M120 both chronoed at 350fps.

 

 

This Monday I installed a M120 in mine and chronoed 398fps, just below the limit for assault guns in my country (400fps)

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Guess what… my motor died.

I had to put an ICS Turbo 3000 borrowed from my AKS74U. It Works fine, but is too fast. Now shoots 2 rounds in semi

I'm going to test ROF tomorrow.

 

Also I replaced the stock hop up rubber with a G&G green one after the stock rubber was torn by the "spacer"

 

 

 

 

Just a quick question for those of you who've gone for the longer barrel Tavor, Does it have the same cylinder as the regular one? ie, a non ported cylinder?

Yes, a non ported cylinder.

[IMI Weapon Thread]

Ares Tavor Dark Earth with a micro Aimpoint

 

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

The magcatch is soft, however even depressing the magcatch button, the magazine cannot fall out on its own without it being pulled. Only while the magcatch is depressed, with enough force or vigorously shaking the gun will let the magazine drop out.

 

I think you're talking about the Ares mag

 

The only mag I have that doesn't fall immediately when the mag release is pressed is the one that comes with the gun. But if I use a Dboys, JP, MAG, for example, they all fall without any resistance. The Ares mag fits tight in the magwell and the others don't.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Nop.

I shoot more in semi than in full auto and until now I haven't had any problem, perhaps because I always pull the trigger all the way back. In this case, a long way back .

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

I Skirmished my tavor DE yesterday too. Is a great gun.

 

FPS

1. 365.2

2. 366.6

3. 365.2

4. 365.4

5. 363.6

6. 365.9

7. 364.8

 

Very consistent FPS with 0.2g ICS bbs.

1399 RPM (23.3 rounds per second) with a 11.1 Lipo (and a frightening sound if you are in front )

 

Great range and accuracy.

I had to aim low too, but not much.

 

And yes, same issue with mag release. Mag fell 2 times during the game. I'm going to cut an AEG spring and put behind the mag release.

 

I'm really happy with my tavor.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Any chance of a pic of the thermo shrink sleeve?

 

Sure

 

(I don't know if that's right name in english)

 

 

 

That does look poorly moulded...mine is cleaner than that.

 

Mine too.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

The barrel in mine is fixed in place like the CTAR. This way below the front end of the upper rail.

And the other support is below the rear sight.

But I have no lateral movement at all (side to side, up or down) and no twist.

This is the further I'm going to disassemble the gun. If it works don't fix it…….. in this case don't open it.

I think Ares improved some parts of the gun, according with other CTAR reviews I saw on the net. For example the wiring is not soldered directly to the motor, now is plugged and the motor section is protected with a transparent thermo shrinkable sleeve.

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Ok, I did a short test in my backyard.

Shot a 20 x 20 cm hard surface at 25 m (82 ft) with .25g ICS, 11.1v Lipo and no wind.

 

At first bbs were flying too high. Just a little hop-up adjustment and problem solved, straight to the target.

 

So far so good.

 

The real test is going to take place this Sunday when I will be having the opportunity to see this tavor side by side with a couple of Ares Ctar.

 

According to Ares tester, the gun is firing at 339 fps (103.3 m/s) with .2g. The ROF is definitely over 20 rounds per second with the lipo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...and with a nice acm micro aimpoint XDDDD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: How much does the barrel flex under load? With the CTAR version, the outer barrel is only supported at the gearbox end, so there's a bit of flex if you tweak it hard enough (although in fairness, only my Real Sword Type 97's outer barrel doesn't flex at all).

 

Nothing, no flexion. The barrel is very solid but I'm not going to try to tweak it harder until flex

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

Not tested yet.

 

I can’t play till Sunday. That day I’m going to know how well it shoots.

 

 

[ARES Tavor TAR-21 - First Impressions]

My Ares Tavor Dark Earth arrived today from Redwolf Airsoft.

 

The weapon looks great.

 

Here is a picture with a real Meprolight (not mine...sadly).

 

 

Sorry, my cell phone camera is not good in low light situations.

 

And this is a Close up of the barrel without the flash hider.

 

 

 

 

The Dark Earth outer barrel is about 100mm longer than the Ctar, and the DE inner barrel ends where the flash hider thread starts.

 

 

The Ctar inner barrel measures 407mm that means the DE inner barrel is about 500mm length .

 

Total length of the Tavor DE 790mm (including Flash hider)

 

 

[A&K SVD PICT'O'RAMA + first look]

Hi guys!

I have one of this... see my review, deep fire 6,02, M190, guarder hard buking

SVD review from Chile