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Well i have rewired the mechbox for a SW-CHEETAH-2N mosefet http://extreme-fire.com/SW-CHEETAH-2N.html and installed the King Arm's adapter for a M4 stock. Some filling was required on the adapter so it would fit the X47 rear part of the receiver. Depending on which stock you choice will depend if you need to cut down the rear adapter. For my self i was required to make this cut so my stock would fit. Here is a link to what is required if you choice this stock. http://airsoft-club.com/shop/external-upgrade/grip-stock/stock/gmarine-battery-stock-for-m4-m16-aeg-black-gp774b also i changed the screw to a short length so it would not enter fear with the wiring.
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For the removal of the hopup and mechbox, you are required to disassemble the whole barrel assembly to remove the lower rail. Then it is possible for you to remove these screws and split the AEG in half. One half hopup assemble and the other half mechbox assembly.
Internals
The barrel and hopup system is that of regular AK AEG and nothing special about it, many aftermarket parts can be found for it. The inner barrel stock length is 455mm long. I replaced the barrel with a Guarder tight bore 6.04mm and the hopup packing and nub with a Prometheus Soft Type.
With the mechbox wiring for the battery I was surprise to see that no inline fuse was provided/attached to the wiring harness. The mechboxs it’s self in a stander 7mm bearing one, don’t know why they didn’t use their 8mm bearing one.
• Internals are pretty basic parts stuff, gears are steel
• Sector gear clip on the steel gear set
• Very basic spring guide, plastic with a washer for the spring
• Basic air nozzle (no o-ring)
• Piston and head are good to go along with the included 1joule spring, a cut out allows the spring some breathing room
• Basic shimming was provided
• Motor has a decent magnet to it, good for basic toque and speed
Performance
Rate of fire with the following batteries:
NIMH 8.4 Volt = 14rps
Lipo 7.4 volt 2200 mah 20C = 14rps
Lipo 11.1 volt 1300mah 20C = 23rps
The range I tested at was at 25 meters and every shot had a decent grouping, BB’s used was SIIS .2 grams.
Chrono
My chrono died while I was making this review
Pros
• X47 rail system
• Metal receiver
• Basic ver. 3 mechbox with 7mm bushings
• Nice over all paint finish
• Expandable/upgrade for players needs
Cons
• No fuse for the mechbox/battery
• Spring guide is plastic with a washer for the spring
• Gap between the top cover and the bolt carrier
• Magazine and Mag Well
Personal Opinion
King Arm’s AK X47 is a decent AEG for the price I paid for it and it is a good plat form for future upgrades and mods. Yes it does have some draw backs with the look of the rear stock, hicap mag, mag well and spring guide. When designing the X47 a little bit more thought should have gone into the design of this AEG and still leaving the customer wonting to buy extras/improvements. Let’s be honest that is where the money is for the company.
Mods
• Installing a extreme-fire SW-CHEETAH-2N Mosfest
• Wiring upgrade to 16 AWG Silicone Wire
• Tight bore barrel
• Rear Stock
To Be Continued
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King Arms X47 Folding Stock Review
With all the different types of AK on the market I decide I wanted a tactical AK 47. So I started looking around for a base AEG to use, finally I settled on the King Arms X47. This review will walk as though the King Arms X47, its build quality, performance, pros, cons and finally what upgrades it needed to be a tactical AK. In the end this is just one possible version of what a tactical AK could look like.
Table of Contents
First Impressions
Real Steel History
Appearance/Feel/Build Quality
Internals
Performance
Pros & Cons
Personal Opinion
Mods
First Impression
This being my first purchase from King Arms I was not sure what to expect from them. So when I received my package in the mail it was nice colorful box with their logo and a picture of their company’s coat of ARM’s on the cover. After opening the box I was pleased to see a very well packaged product.
King Arm’s included the following items with their AEG: the Ak47X with folding stock, front hand grip, 5 small rail covers, a plastic HI cap mag (600 rounds) and basic owner’s manual. No cleaning rod or take down manual was provided.
Other items purchased for this build were: Madbull Noveske Flash Amplifier, G&P Marine Battery Stock, EA Green Laser Sight, Element Mini Scout Light, LCT Grip Adapter, King Arms Stock Adopter, Magpul Beta Project AK Mid Cap Mag’s, Red Dot and 3X Magnifier.
Real Steel History
The Real Steel History of the AK Assault Rifle is a long and distinguished one, AK’s can be found being made in part or whole in back shops of Afghanistan to major countries as the U.S.A, Russia and many others. Here is a link to the history of this Assault Weapon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
Appearance/Feel/Build Quality
After unfolding the rear stock on the X47 the two things you will notice will be the rail system (more than enough rails to make anyone happy) and the rear stock. The rails on the X47 are made out of Aluminum and are fasten to the AEG at different points. There is no movement of this system and extremely well made. X47 has a full metal receiver that is stamped and pressed. For the rear stock on the other hand is made out of nylon fiber and its seams to take away from the look of the X47. Now the mag is a 600round hicap, but made out of plastic and looks/feels like plastic.
When moving the selection lever from safe to semi or auto, reveals a gap between the top cover and the bolt carrier.
The only markings on this AEG are the fire select, the rail system, serial number and other marks. There are no weapon magnification trades what so ever on the AK X47 AEG.
Over all the build quality is well done in the choosing of material, the only real drawback is in the mag that was provided and the mag well. The mags I have tried are Magpul Beta Project AK Mid Cap Mag’s, Real Sword Mid Cap and King Arm’s Hicap. All mags fit loosely and wobble while inserted.
Battery Installation:
1. First remove the X47 top rail removing the follow screws (see pic), do not remove the screw on your rear site, and only loosen it!
2. After removing those four screws and loosening the other, move the lock pin up wards and the rear site.
3. Remove the top rail but be careful you don’t scratch your receiver cover it’s a close fit.
4. Remove the receiver cover and install your battery. The battery is an AK stick battery for AK 47 8.4 volt 1400mAh or the AK 47S.
Over all taken down takes a little time due to the X47 rail system, caution should be used with the rail due to it being made out of aluminum, threads will strip easier do to the nature of the soft alloy.
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Very very cool AK, I would have chosen an AKM as a base, but thats just my personal likings
How is the eye relief in that magnifier?
Thank you, glad you liked it, the ak 74 is also a great plat form to use. But in the end what makes the AK special is you can get parts made in a back water shops in no mans land and it will work.
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Hmm...
Very probable.
Will check it out when I get back home tomorrow.
Thanks.
If you take apart the switch be careful, there's a small spring in there and its easy to lose or not see and you will have reattach it to the mechbox..
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So, did anyone have semi-auto problem after installing the Infected Armory MOSFET?
I am getting lock-ups when I do not release the trigger slow enough... (also has to do with fitting the battery and mosfet completely within the gun itself...but that should not be a big problem because the only thing slightly annoying is that wires are increasing the trigger pull weight by friction).
That was running on a half-charge from Elite 1500mah 9.6v custom battery(not the type RS has on their website, I moved a cell from the 3-pack to the front to make room for the mosfet).
When i installed my fet, i had to open the mechbx to clean out the switch due to some of the plastic sticking to each other. I sidder my own wires to the switch and may over heated them a bit. This caused some sticking for me.
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Some of you will like it and some won't. Here is my idea of a tactical AK, still waiting on some parts. I used the King Arm's AK X47 for the base.
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Performance
Chrono using SIIS .20g BB’s, please remember I live in Japan where there is a 1 joule limit (320 fps):
1st shot 298 fps
2nd shot 292 fps
3rd shot 297 fps
4th shot 295 fps
5th shot 299 fps
Rate of fire tested with the following batteries for 97B stock:
NIMH 8.4 volt =12 Rounds Per Second
Lipo 7.4 volt 20C at 2200mah = 12 Rounds Per Second
Lipo 11.1 volt 20C at 1300mah = 24 Rounds Per Second
Rate of fire tested for the 97 after upgrades:
NIHM 9.6V = 15 Rounds Per Second
Lipo 7.4V = 12 Rounds Per Second
Lipo 11.1V = 20 Rounds Per Second
Mags are easy to come by if you stay with the metal ones, I tried the Real Sword Mid Cap, Airsoft Elite High Cap, and the King Arms Magpul mag (but you will need to file down the outer lip on the left side of this mag, it is a tight fit). The mag housing are the same and these are the same mags I used when reviewing my T97.
The range I tested at was at 25 meters and every shot had a decent grouping, BB’s used was SIIS .2 grams.
Pros
As with the T97 I basically have the same pros on the 97B when it comes done to build quality (high quality and fit well to gather), rear hand grip for the trigger is at a good length for me, and mages. This is the standard that I have found with all of the Real Sword Products.
Cons
The only thing I have against the 97 lineup is the battery, it requires a brake down of the AEG each time you remove or install a battery. See my mod section to see what I have done to fix this problem. Also with the front for grip, I don’t like the idea of the base of it being left open, to easy for dirt and other things to get to the inside of the AEG (should remember that this a replica of the original 97B and kept true to the Real Steel design).
Personal Opinion
With the Real Sword 97B I have an AEG that works well as a CQB weapon and able to change to the assault role if needed. The weight allows for easy movement around/though sharp concerns or obstacles. For the dollar value and quality of manufacturing. I can’t beat it, very few companies try to keep true with the real steel weapons, but Real Sword has kept true to making a fantastic replica.
As for my P90 and MP5 I find that the 97B will easy surpass them out of the box performance. This is not a slam against other manufactures; there are some great companies out there that I have yet to try. It will be interesting to see this coming season how well the 97b works for me over my P90, custom G36C (short stocked) and of course the 97 on the field. In the end I really didn’t find much of a difference between the two except for their roles as QCB or Assault Rifle, the choice is really up to you the player.
Mods
These are the mods I plan on during in the near future:
• Mounting a PEQ15 Red Laser & Li-Po battery between the front site and the carrying handle.
• Installing a Mosfest
• Wiring upgrade to 16 AWG Silicone Wire
• Tight bore barrel
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Can you use the Real Sword 10.8 battery for this, or will that only fit the 97?
Sorry to say no, the Real Sword 10.8 battery is for the T97 only, part of that battery lay's in the front stock.
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Thanks for the review!
Can you also comment on the magazine itself? I'm hoping that the RS midcaps can match the practical durability of a magpul p-mag (i.e. numerous drop mag actions on a concrete floor will not damage the mag itself, save for some scratches and dents, but not aiming for dropping the mag two stories high to a concrete floor and achieving the same results). I'm planning to get the Type 97B in the future but for now, I'm planning to get myself a couple of RS steel M16 mags for my current HK416 so I can save myself the hassle of getting more RS mags in the future when I buy the 97B for CQB games and leave the 416 for outdoors.
Also, do you have any other brand of AEGs that uses the RS M16 midcaps? Can you comment on their compatability?
The Real Sword mid caps are made out of sheet metal and can take a good drop, but my only problem with them is they will rust on you, from time to time you will have to wipe them down with oil. As for there compatibility with other AEG's, it was mentioned in the thread for the G&G 2010 as a possible mag to use (could be wrong, it's been a while). I have used them in my son's D-boys PDW with out any problems.
Quote from my t97 review: Mags are easy to come by if you stay with the metal ones, I tried the Real Sword Mid Cap, Airsoft Elite High Cap, and the King Arms Magpul mag (but you will need to file down the outer lip on the left side of this mag, it is a tight fit).
Hope this helps?
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Very nice!!! I can't wait to hear about what battery you use and how you like it compared to other AEGs!
Thanks for the thumbs up on this
Here is a little teaser on the battery part:
type 97 with mosfet, upgrade wiring and using a 11.1 volt lipo at 20C 1300mah gives me 21 rps
type 97B stock with no mods using a 11.1 volt lipo at 20C 1300mah gives me 27 rps (madness in some ways)
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The Mechbox
The mechbox is the same that is used in the 97, except for the motor. Also both models allow for the quick change of the spring. One of the nice things about this mechbox is the fact it not overly greased.
• The outer cover of the mechboxs has a finished coating to it, you can also see the 7mm ball bearings.
• Spring is a SP90 with a polycarb spring guide with metal base.
• Reinforced piston and ball bearing piston head
• The gears are well made, are up to standards and made out of steel. As for the shimming on this is almost dead on.
• Standard cylinder
• Remember you have a high speed motor with the 97B
Over all the mechbox is well designed and cable of taking almost anything you though at it.
To Be Continued in the next couple of days (performance, pros & cons, personal opinion and planed mods)
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6. Remove the fixed screw on the rear part of the mecbox, this will allow you to remove the mecbox (97)
7. Remove the two screws holding your hop up unit in place. Then pull back on the unit to remove the inner barrel. The inner barrel length is 360mm and it is that of a stock barrel of 6.05 and the hop up rubber is that of a stock AEG. 97B and 97 use the same hopup unit.
Over all take down is not that hard, but if you are not use to it, it can take time. All the metal is well oiled and fits well together. No lose parts or wobbles that I can see. The hopup unit is a very tight fit and care should be taken when re installing it.
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Care should be taken when removing the carry handle due to the front and rear site being located in /on it
Your front hand grip is setup with you wrapping your fingers around it but not your thumb. The thumb actually gets placed above the grip in the indentation made for it, see picture.
Internals
The internals of the 97B and 97 are quite the same except for two things, the first is not that big of a deal the inner brawl is shorter and the other witch does make a difference is the motor. On the 97B is a high speed motor where on the 97 you have a high torque motor. Brake down of the 97B is basically the same as that of the 97(if you see the number 97 at the end of a number section, it means it is the same take down as the 97):
1. Push though the rear stock pin (pin does not remove from the side wall), then remove the rear stock when pulling the cocking lever to the rear. Pull the cocking lever to the rear and remove the screw on the dust cover. This will expose the mechobox (97).
2. Remove the fixed screw on the rear trigger lever. Set the selector lever to the A position and pull the trigger. The trigger lever will break lose (97).
3. Pull the upper carry handle back and upwards to remove it. Be careful here; remember your front site is part of the carrying handle now. Also there is a small push pin on the front of you front site, you will have to push in to remove the handle.
4. Remove the lower hand guard pin. Pull the lower hand guard down and forward and remove it (97).
5. Look down were the trigger is and this is where you place your battery(97). As for the battery it may be better to leave it in for recharging, but for long term storage its best to breakdown the AEG and remove it. Recharging can be done though the bottom of the hand grip. Here’s an option for you if you don’t want to use the custom battery, try a LIPO, it will fit in the trigger handle. Also a link to Real Sword about the custom battery 9.6 volt http://www.realsword.com.hk/faq4.htm
To Be Continued
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Real Sword Type 97B Review
Well I have been using the Real Sword 97 most of the 2010 season and just enjoyed the way it handles. So I have picked up the Real Sword 97B AEG, which is great for CQB and as an assault rifle. During this review I will reference/compare the 97B to the 97 model. There are many things similar between the two and a few things that are different.
Table of Contents
First Impressions
Real Steel History
Appearance/Feel/Build Quality
Internals
Performance
Pros & Cons
Personal Opinion
Mods
First Impression
With this being my third Real Sword purchased I have become use to receiving a well package product that is design to protect everything in its contents. When I open the box the first thing I all ways see, is the Japanese Certificate meeting the one joule limit (I live in Japan so there’s a one joule limit).
The purchase includes the following items; Type 97B AEG, Small Tool Kit, Oil Container, 130 Round Mag, Extra Muzzle Cover (Not The Orange One That Came With It), Cleaning Rod, BB Loader, Owner’s Manual and a Quick Reference Taken Down Guide. Battery is not included with the AEG and is a custom type. At this point I am very pleased with my purchased.
Real Steel History
From what I have been able to learn about the 97b is that there is not a whole lot of information about this weapon open to the public. With that being said here is what I was able to find out about it: Type 97B short assault rifle, a member of the type 97 5.56mm gun family, inherits all the advantages of 97 gun family. Compact size, the overall length of 97B assault rifle is 620mm. Light weight, with unloaded magazine it only weighs 3.1kg. The smart gun can function as a sub machine gun with high performance. It adopts the 5.56 mm bullet, such as SS109, M193 ammunition, and the effective range is 300 meters. Its power is nearly the same as rifle. Type 97B is usually equipped to special operation forces, the armed helicopter operators, and guarders for important members of government. Due to this kind of reason, there is only little information about type 97B. As more about Chinese weapons were learned by people, type 97B attracts more and more people’s eyes. The most distinguishing feature of this gun is the muzzle device, with trumpet-shape flash hider in the front part and thick cylinder design in the back part. When firing, it can reduce the blaze and noise. The unique pistol grip make holding the gun very comfortable and can restrain the muzzle jumping. Type 97B uses the same materials and techniques as type 97. The stock, grip, upper hand guards are made of high strength polymer, and frame is forged with duralumin, CNC processed. Thus the overall weight is reduced. The hard-coat anodizing finish on surface enforces the rigidity, wear ability and anticorrosion of frame, which makes it more nice and practical. Scope mount can use white light, glimmer and red dot sight, etc.
The magazine port of type 97B is straight and button type, which is compatible with US M16 and Belgium FNC assault rifle.
Appearance/Feel/Build Quality
First time handling the 97B AEG, I find how much lighter it is compared to the type 97, it is how ever somewhat rear heavy do to the location of the mechbox (which is the same as the 97 at the rear of the AEG). Movement and handling of the 97B is easy, turning concerns, tight spaces you find that you have a great CQB weapon but still able to fulfill a role as a Standard Assault Rifle. All of the steel and polymer used on both the 97B and 97 are the same (High Quality). The front and rear sights are located on the top of the carrying handle. One thing that is needed with the 97B is to make shore after each usage that the AEG is wiped down with some kind of gun oil to prevent rust from starting.
There are only three markings on the 97B, same as the 97. The serial, select switch and warning label
The hop up adjustment is easy, pull back the charging handle and it will open the ejection port exposing the adjustment knob. The port only opens about half of a inch or so (same as the 97). The mag release is on the same side as your ejection port and hop up (same as the 97).
As with the 97b and 97 the mount for your scopes, red dots and so on, was thought out. They used a good heavy peace of steel that was lathed and set in the carrying handle. What you see is that the steel can support the weight, but also that the carrying handle re enforce the rail system for your scope/red dots. Care should be taken with the 97B when removing the carry handle since your front sight mount is located here.
To Be Continued
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There's is a mod for using the AK 56 series spring guide with bearing, please check out real sword site for more info. I am going to have to try this one out.
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Yes, of course.
Should have it up sometime next week hopefully.
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Would anyone be interested in seeing a review done on the 97B?
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Last night my new Real Sword 97b came in. Here is a pic of it, along with my 97 and P90.
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Get this, after three months of waiting TM finally sent me the part, cost $10.00.
Three months
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Yea the hopup and piston are pretty cheap. The one thing i don't like about the hopup system are the two small screws that hold it in place, pain to get to and i am afraid that i may strip one.
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Wow, that's not even all that bad, is the piston not a standard type?
Stock piston
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Will the season here is almost over so i decide to open the mechbox to see what has been going inside. The only wear and tear that i could find was the piston, see photo. Please remeber i have used the hell at of this AEG and the only battery has been a 11V lipo. So i a extreamly happy to see only the piston needed replacing, the price of a piston from ehobby is $9.99 each
All the gears, shims and bushings look new.
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frogfish, It's a tight fit so you are going to have to pull it out with some force. Putting it back in is also a little tight so be careful.
King Arms X47 Folding Stock Review
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First of all i need to thank Golgo 13 for installing one of his AB mosfets for me, currently was uable to pickup the SW-CHEETAH-2N mosefet. Other upgrades were done to the mechboxs:
Guarder Ball Bearings Spring Guide
Guarder Air Nozzle with o-ring
Guarder Tappet Plate
16AWG Silver Silicon Wire for motor
20AWG wire for trigger switch/gate wires
Dens plugs
After all was done the rate of fire stayed the same, telling me that the stock motor is working at its max and any improvement would require a new motor (may be a g&p 160).
Here is the final product of what i think makes a nice tactical AK, trigger response is outstanding.