Finbarqs
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get it scratched and beat up. It'll look like a real weapon after that!
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@Akira,
Exactly, as long as at least ONE round can be fired, it's already too dangerous because it can be modded...
I ran into the same problem years ago with the first "supressor" for my M4 and was told the same exact story!@HitManhigger,
Since you're in HK, can you find out from one of the local shops what I need to do to get a replacement BCG for the M27 IAR...? I've reached out already to VFC but they haven't returned any of my emails yet...? Perhaps they might have a telephone number and/or direct way of getting in touch with VFC...? Maybe they sell replacement BCGs? Thanks in advance for the HK connections!
Even if it fires 1 round... (granted the Inner barrel will not permit this, and there isn't any type of rifling on the outer barrel, not to mention that the carrier doesn't even have a firing pin, nor will be able to eject the casing) -- What's the difference between this gun and a normal ar-15? They are still legally owned. It's not if it can fire 1 round. It's if it can fire a succession of rounds in burst or full auto mode. Semi Auto is perfectly legal in Kalifornia
as long as you obey the rules.-- and you can't have more than 10 rounds, and a bullet button if your gun has a pistol grip. So if it DOES fire a round, all you need to do is put a bullet button on it, and you're set and legal! Oh yeah, you need a 16" barrel at least also, otherwise you need to get a supressor that'll make the barrel 16" (must be a permanent solution, like welded on or something)
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ah... typical vfc's... somebody just need to custom make their internals for max reliability!
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BATF are retarded sometimes. The magazine holder, the internal parts, probably wouldn't be enough to fire a real upper, without serious damage to an airsoft. I mean, I don't think the FCG can handle 60k PSI, and the hammer may not hit the firing pin, with the mag catch holding the magazine up at the right place...
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It's a pretty big deal... especially when it only works with EB mags. But a bolt catch swap, and BCG swap, and the replacement of the rear buffer spacer shouldn't be too hard to replace...
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nope, never did. I suspect it's the bolt catch and the bolt carrier itself.
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hmm... I lost count after how many k's have been into this collection:
Inokatsu 2011 M4A1 SOPMOD
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Surefire m951 w/IR kit
Magpul ASAP
Magpul MS2
Colt 6920 M4 Stock
DPMS Forward Assist
Eotech 553
Magpul BUIS
RRA Front side sling mount
Colt A2 Birdcage flash hider
Colt Delta Ring Assembly (Delta Ring, Spring, and barrel nut)
KAC Forward Grip
AR-15 Crush Washer (yeah this was the cheapest)
KAC Rail Covers
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Prometheus 363mm AEG 6.03mm inner barrel
Vipertech 2011-2012 AEG Hop Up
Prime Steel Barrel Extension (Drilled and Tapped to viper's specs)
Everthing else is factory Inokatsu
Vipertech 2012 MK18 MOD 0
Factory Gun
Ebay - CompM2
Element LT-150 Mount
Ebay LMT-Style BUIS
Real KAC Rail Cover
Real KAC Forward Grip
Inokatsu 2011 KAC Style Flash Hider
MISC Parts
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LMT SOPMOD G2 Black Stock
Colt N/1 Orignal M4 Stock
DPMS Buffer Spring and Buffer
Colt FSB
KAC RAS
KAC Forward Grip
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Inokatsu 10.3" Barrel
252mm Prometheus 6.03 AEG Inner barrel
Viper 2011-2012 Hop Up
Prime Steel Barrel Extension
Inokatsu FSB
EA KAC QD Silencer
Inokatsu 2009 Upper
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Colt Handguards
Colt A2 Birdcage Flash Hider
Colt Carry Handle
BCM Forward Assist
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Prometheus 363mm 6.03mm AEG inner barrel
Viper 2011-2012 Hop Up Assembly
Inokatsu 2011 Aluminum Barrel Extension
On The Way
Real Aimpoint CompM2
Inokatsu 2009 Lower Receiver with Custom Parts (~$360)
Real Colt M4 Flattop Recever
Real Surefire M951 w/ IR port (another one)
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here's a quick video
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here are some pictures of the comparison between the 2 rifles:
viper doesn't lock back all the way when you insert a mag
inokatsu locks back all the way
Viper M16A1 trademarks
Inokatsu M4A1 trademarks
Inokatsu Dust Cover color
Viper's Dust Cover color
color of the outer barrel.
Viper's short selector
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where are you located?
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I really want GHK to make one with their excellent LCT externals... But as it stands, it seems that only VFC secured the license from Umarex...
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How is it running for you guys? can it be 100% reliable yet? Any type of upgrades is a must? Also, anything to fix that selector that can go full 360 from that one german review?
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So I just received my 2012 viper MK18 Mod 0 rifle with full colt trades. Here are my initial impressions! (As some of you may know, I don't overlook the physical appearance details such as the 'forge-line' as many of you has pointed out..)
Anyways, looking PAST the forging line, here are my impressions of the rifle! Yes the forging line is VERY minimal, and is barely there at all! (might as well get rid of it!!!!)
So what I currently have: 2 GHK's (AKM and a PDW ver. 3) 2 Inokatsu's: 2009 and 2011, and now a Viper 2012. I was completely expecting an inokatsu, but higher build quality, but I'm wrong. I'll try to be as objective as possible, and list my subjections for you guys to take away.
Externals and physical aspects of the gun
It's black, maybe a really jet dark black. Not quite as 'charcoal' as my ino 2011, but a bit 'shinier' than my 2009. re-anodizing should fix this without any issues. The trademarks, though obviously engraved, doesn't look as good as inokatsu's. Not to say they are bad, but just not as convincing (a subjection of mine) as inokatsu. Granted, I don't like Dom at all for being a 'snake' in the business, his externals looks better (i'd say marginally, though viper does better in other areas than inokatsu)
Both externals use 6061 but we don't know if it's T6 or not. The pins are flush against the receiver on Viper, which is a huge plus. The receiver is also perfectly flush against each other, which inokatsu 2011 has a small gap in between. Holding a real AR-15 (haven't held a full modern colt AR-15), the gap exists, about the same amount as Inokatsu's. The factory stock from viper (which is a LMT clone of the Gen. 2) wobbles A LOT. It seems that the buffer tube is *slightly* smaller than Inokatsu's as when I put on a real LMT Gen 2 sopmod stock on my Inokatsu, it's 99% solid with very little wobble. Putting it on my Viper I'd say it's about 85%. Factory is close to 60% -- kind of annoying.
Since a member of the gasguns forum has my 6920 upper receiver, I can't compare the brass deflector. But I have to say, I think Viper's brass deflector is CLOSER to the actual shape of the brass deflector of the colt upper receiver. But there are no forging marks on viper's upper receiver
One thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is the dust cover: viper is light grey, inokatsu is dark grey. The Colt 6920 upper receiver is dark grey like the inokatsu. I'm guessing because Viper's using a M16A1 lower receiver, they feel that they need to make the flattop receiver "old school" but putting that light grey color on the dust cover. The weird part about it is that no part on this gun has that "light grey" color anywhere. The inokatsu's dust cover matches the outer barrel, which is a dark dull grey finish.
Speaking of the outer barrle, Viper's outer barrel is darker than inokatsu's. If you never owned both rifles before, you may say that viper's outer barrel is grey. But seeing it right next to inokatsu's it's flat black. This is a preference thing, as I don't have the real Colt M4 rifle: I prefer inokatsu's outer barrel finish. Also, the FSB on Inokatsu's seems to be more accurately portrayed -- on the trademarks. On viper it's almost perfectly CNC machined to precision letters and numbers. Inokatsu is less perfect like the real colt FSB (I Just bought a real Colt FSB with the same bayonet lug!)
I can't compare the RIS system, as Inokatsu uses a RAS. This viper uses a RIS (with the odd numbering on the rail grooves and the flat head screw in front of the RIS). But comparing the feel, it feels like Viper's machined the RIS to perfection. Ino is a little smoother and not as refined on the RAS, but that's probably because it's a RAS vs. RIS. I have a real KAC RAS, and it's even smoother to feel than the inokatsu. I'd viper and ino is very close in feel, but KAC's actual RAS is very very smooth, and has a slight magenta/blue coloring to it. Both Inokatsu and Viper are jet black. So in this instance, I have NO preference as to which is better. They both are just different, with viper being a little more machined to precision.
The selector on both guns are different. Not just because Viper uses a M16A1 lower receiver - thus the selector does NOT have a indicator mark on the opposte side, but it's slightly shorter. Looking at pictures of actual M16A1's the selector's tail protrudes a little on the 'semi' mode. Viper's a little short. Inokatsu replicated this length with the M4A1 properly (using my 2011 as a comparative standard). Also, Viper's selector is closer to 90 degrees than my 2011 inokatsu, when locked into position. And there's another difference: The feel of the selector: Viper has more resistance when changing firing modes: Inokatsu moves very smoothly. Though they they lock into place, both guns has different personality's as well: Viper on Auto is SOLID. There is NO play what so ever. However, it looks as if it moved above the 90 degree mark slightly. on Semi, there's a little bit of play, and on safe, it will NOT hold the 90 degree angle. It can, but the selector will just drop down 5 degrees, letting you know there's play in that selector -- and it's not as tight as can be, though it feels pretty tight when you change the firing modes. On the Inokatsu, every firing mode has play, but not as loose as viper's on 'safe'. It's mushy, but it usually will hold it's position once in place. On the Inokatsu, (2011), the selector will bob in and out as you change firing modes as well, while the Viper looks pretty solid. The 2009 doesn't bob either, like the viper.
Pulling back on the charging handle has a little more resistance than factory inokatsu 2011. However, Viper will not go as far back into the buffer tube as Inokatsu's will. I'm trying to see if there's a way to get Viper's to go all the way back, but it seems that the gas key is blocking the full entry into the buffer tube. Both guns has the gas tube going all the way into the receiver -- nice!
Bolt catch: They feel different on both guns. Viper's bolt catch has a detent spring giving you a stronger resistance constantly even when the carrier is not locked back. The angle feels slightly lower than Inokatsu's, and neither is as grand as RA-Tech's bolt catch! It's practically 35-40 degrees out when locked! Viper's bolt catch system feels much more consistent, more engineered. Inokatsu's feels... more mechanical, and very simplistic.
Shooting and Performance
One thing that viper does great at is shooting. More reliably than inokatsu! That's because they have probably one of the best Hop Up systems in the GBBR Magna World (after my request to find the "best" hop up in the WA World...) My inokatsu hop up rubber ripped about 3k firing, and replacing thread adapter. So I replaced it with a Viper Hop up unit! But Recoil: I'd say both are pretty comparable. They sound different, however. When Inokatsu's bcg slams forward, it sounds a bit closer to a real AR15. Viper's sound a bit deeper with a 'Thup'. Perhaps that's because Inokatsu's hammer actually hits the fake firing pin (90 degrees -- will make that ping sound) while viper stays back. But after the upgrades, they both perform right around the same area. Reliability and cool down was the key here, and both did great! (now my Ino has viper upgrades lol)
But one thing REALLY bothered me. Viper came with these AWESOME EB mags. Awesome recoil, and really heavy! (Heavier than pro wins and GHK's, and probably WA's.. probably the heaviest magna mag I have!) Viper works wonders on EB. However, throw in a Pro Win ver. 2, though it still works, the bcg will NOT lock back for the life of me. Throw in my GHK CO2, and same thing. BCG will not lock back! WTF! It only works with EB Mags? This was VERY annoying to me. My inokatsu worked with any magna mag I threw at it! EB, Pro-Win, G&P, WA, you name it, it'll do it!
Anyways, they're both great guns, OOTB and reliability, Viper has it. But straight OOTB, I'd give it to Inokatsu as it'll shoot awesome also (well mine did) and looks and feels closer to an actual AR15. But with Inokatsu's bad reputation created by Dom, Viper is the one that'll last.
Both are great guns. subjectively, I'd say Inokatsu is the rifle that'll look and feel closer to it's counter part. But both guns can be made to be closer to the real thing, but cosmetically, I'd give inokatsu the light edge. If a Real colt M4/AR15 (emphasis on 'Colt') is 100%, I'd give Ino's fit/feel/impression 90%. Viper I'd say 88%.
But then again, that's pretty subjective, take that for what you will, but I hope I'm objective enough for you guys!
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all after I've done my finishing around the entire gun. still a lot of play.
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I know newer 1911's aren't hand made by Dom anymore, but by cybergun, in which they glued the rear sight so it's solid. But yeah, mine is just like the pictures i posted earlier, but now that I have finished mine, it's much closer to that "grey" look.
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You must've finished it now that I saw you color corrected the pictures. Because it jet black. I had to sand paper it to make it grey. But since I removed the bbu, I can never get the gun to sound the same anymore.
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yeah, the issues of gas guns: you must use quality bb's that wont get crushed, since they are literally being loaded by the bcg! The Double feeding issue could be your hop up rubber being worn. A lot of these issues reside in the hop up, or the quality of bb's you use..
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from what I've read, you can't change the stock for a real stock because of the recoil spring is a different dimension. Is this true?
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I'm really thinking about this platform, but from reading this thread, this gun gets neglected A LOT. A lot of fixes, and no updates. First of all, this gun is pretty hard to find in stock anywhere.. .I guess they really are going back to the drawing board to make this work. Second, Did they fix the mechanism so you wont dry fire after the last round? And then, what upgardes do I need to do to get this skirmishable? Actually scratch that last question, what is the BEST internals I can get. Obviously, I would like carbon steel if they made it, but they don't.
Is the Cocking lever aluminum or steel? Anyways, I want this gun to be indestructible! I'm pretty familiar with the WA system, and I've got that down pat pretty much. Now the Mp5 has always been a gun I wanted... And that 6mm roll mark on top. Anyone got rid of it? or did everyone just painted over it?
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I just don't know why manufacturers make these awesome guns, but don't make them indestructible... I guess it's because they know people will pay for parts to fix them... it's a money hog... I guess that makes the manufacturers the winners of this... And if they make the perfect one, why would they make a newer version?
Inokatsu M1911A1 Standard Edition
in Pistols (Gas)
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a lot of people will say "The original WWII Colt has loose fittings also!" Well, AFTER HOLDING a REAL WWII COLT 1911A1, yes it's loose. But not inokatsu loose! If a solid pistol is 100%, colt is like 85%-90% solid, with 10% play. Inokatsu is more like 50%-60% play. Even the safety selector is loose as hell. The colt is 100% solid on the safety selector, Inokatsu is like 40-50%.
The fitting is probably 50% of original colt.