LoneWolf Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Out of the guns I listed in my prev. topic, I like the Mk23 best, but the out-of-the-box performance of the last HW version slightly put me off. Is the 2005 worth getting? What have they changed? Cheers, Mike ™ DISCLAIMER: I wan't to order a GBB today, so please post!! Link to post Share on other sites
wildstallion Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Out of the guns I listed in my prev. topic, I like the Mk23 best, but the out-of-the-box performance of the last HW version slightly put me off. Is the 2005 worth getting? What have they changed? Cheers, Mike ™ DISCLAIMER: I wan't to order a GBB today, so please post!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seems ok to me although I do have a TN barrel, and I have now adopted a policy of only running all my guns on 134A since I saw the damage done to the inside of my TMP. Personally though there is somthing about my mates TM Socom that is pure sex. The slide is stationary, but as a result with the suppresor its virually silent, and shoots straighter than any gun I have ever seen Link to post Share on other sites
Full Metal Jacket Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Haven't you ordered a gun yet ? Well... I suppose I would get the HW. Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Haven't you ordered a gun yet ? Well... I suppose I would get the HW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You mean my twin brother or my alter-ego? Naa, I'm ordering today Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Is the KSC Mk23 HeavyWeight 2005 realible out of the box? PLEASE ANSWER! I need to order a GBB tonight! PLEASE! (I've searched, and I'm mixed...) If there are any problems with it, how do I fix them? Cheers, Mike ™ (rep points for allllll who contribute ) Link to post Share on other sites
SgtBojangles Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I suggest.... the edit button! Yes! New 2005 HW edit button! On a more serious note: All of the KSC pistols that I've come in contact with have been reliable. With that said, why wouldn't the 05' SOCOM be reliable? I say take the risk and if anything breaks, fix it! Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Is the KSC Mk23 HeavyWeight 2005 realible out of the box? PLEASE ANSWER! I need to order a GBB tonight! PLEASE! (I've searched, and I'm mixed...) If there are any problems with it, how do I fix them? Cheers, Mike ™ (rep points for allllll who contribute ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All I can say its a KSC, they make nice guns. If I was in the market for a GBB socom I would get that one. Ultimatly I would go with a gun that only has positive reviews. So if you are stuck on getting a socom get the TM one. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Nah, if you want a GBB SOCOM, the TM one will leave you disappointed. I had one for a while and a KSC - There's no contest... If, though, you want an accurate, quiet NBB, then the Mk23's pretty good. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Nah, if you want a GBB SOCOM, the TM one will leave you disappointed. I had one for a while and a KSC - There's no contest... If, though, you want an accurate, quiet NBB, then the Mk23's pretty good. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Errr... since when did tm make a GBB socom? What I was suggesting was that if he has his heart set on a socom (no reference to g/nbb here) I would go with the TM. Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I does'nt have to be silent, and acuracy can be fixed with a TN barrel Cheers, Mike ™ P.S. I'm a GBB lover Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Errr... since when did tm make a GBB socom? What I was suggesting was that if he has his heart set on a socom (no reference to g/nbb here) I would go with the TM. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> err - since when did I say they did...? What I was suggesting was that if he wanted a GBB (as he does, it seems), the NBB TM will be a disappointment. You really cannot say the TM is comparable to the KSC, they're just too different. The TM is basically a springer with gas internals. The KSC is two or three classes ahead in quality, in HW form, anyway. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 What will be, will be. I just ordered my GBB. *drumroll* KSC Mk23 HeavyWeight 2005 with Guarder recoil/hammer spring. FINALLY! Can I shoot the gun with GreenGas? or should I upgrade something? Cheers, Mike ™ Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 What will be, will be. I just ordered my GBB. *drumroll* KSC Mk23 HeavyWeight 2005 with Guarder recoil/hammer spring. FINALLY! Can I shoot the gun with GreenGas? or should I upgrade something? Cheers, Mike ™ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Should be fine with green. Get a metal slide later (if they have em for the KSC). Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Get a metal slide later (if they have em for the KSC). They do - Truly droolworthy, too Only reason I sold my first HW was to pay for one already upgraded to metal... Will be OK on green except in warm weather, but parts availability is good for the Mk23. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 They do - Truly droolworthy, too Only reason I sold my first HW was to pay for one already upgraded to metal... Will be OK on green except in warm weather, but parts availability is good for the Mk23. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> O good. *runs off to find mk23* Link to post Share on other sites
mhe Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I can vouch for the 2005 version of the GBB SOCOM. The improvements over the previous version are quite significant, including a valve larger in diameter and a single recoil spring setup rather than the more realistic dual spring one. Blowback is really nice. If you do the recoil spring (I guess you mean the Guarder Set with recoil/hammer spring and the reinforced sear pin), be aware, that the ABS slide will finally give up (mine did, but I have the non-HW version). Get the precision barrel as well, it's worth it. Also, if you have the budget, get yourself a shooters design metal slide. It's quite expensive, but extremely well made. Give the gun a nice feel. I don't know whether it's a common problem, but my slide catch lever gave up after a few hundred mags, so the slide does not stay back anymore when the mag's empty. Currently trying to get a new slide catch lever (part 52), but have not been successful yet. Ideas? Link to post Share on other sites
jackie_rants Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I think the 2005 version's mag is also more effecient than older versions. Recently I put an SD slide on a HW. The slide is nice but dear. Clear markings with a super clean finish, in a very dark grey/brown. Gives a good *clack* when racking. The bit sticking out near the chamber is spring loaded! Also, it was very easy to fit. The Guarder 150% dual-recoil and hammer spring springs didn't seem to affect anything drastically, eg. the slide snapping back and forth, but I'm sure it helps the overall-ness of it. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 The 2005 mags are supposed to have a bigger reservoir, but I think that's the only difference. As the chamber is bigger, the gun needs more gas to empty a full mag. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
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