my_plague_666 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 this wouldnt be my first GBB, i did have an HFC M190 before, but it was a lemon and died on me anyhoo, how reliabe is this pistol long term? how much maintainance does it need? what upgrades are a must? (apart from metal slide obviously, as i intend to run it on green) Link to post Share on other sites
El_Boomo Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Ive been running a G18C for about 3 years now on green. just a metal slide, barrel and a up-rated recoil spring. maintainence-wise, i strip and clean it after every skirmish and oil all the moving parts. also keep it un-cocked to preserve the hammer spring. the 23f is slightly different but mainly its just a smaller version. plus im told its more reliable than the 18c from the start. Link to post Share on other sites
Sh0ty Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 It's not so much the slide that needs upgrading, but the barrel. Anyways, mine has about 4k round through it and had one major collapse, fixed by a metal barrel. (this is on green mind you) I don't shoot much since I haven't any gas (ran out quick ) but I clean and lube it once a month (complete strip, I recommend a quick cleaning and lube once a week or two, depending on usage rate) -Sh0ty Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 ...COMPLETE strip??? does that mean removal off all the internals from the slide etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 My brother's KWA 23f didn't last very long before the rocket valve snapped. It was probably only about 300 or so rounds on green too. I'm guessing it was a lemon or he was just unlucky. Not really much help for long term reliability reference, but it's probably a good idea to get a replacement if it's not too much trouble to, as a metal one is only $10. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 thats a KWA one, which from what i hear is a cheaper knock off of the KSC. but thanks for the advice Link to post Share on other sites
dcentity2000 Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Recoil spring and stronger hammer spring perhaps? I dunno... Definitely the metal slide and outer barrel. High flow valve may be good too. Rich:: Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 thats a KWA one, which from what i hear is a cheaper knock off of the KSC. but thanks for the advice <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The parts still come from the same factory, so buying a KSC doesn't solve the issue of rocket valves snapping on green. If you want to fix the rocket valve issue and at the same time seriously increase the power without buying high flow valves for all the magazines, get the Airsoft Surgeon floating valve for it. As for maintenance, the most important part to clean is the barrel. Releasing propellant doesn't make the internals dirty, so there's no need to clean anything but the silicone residue from the barrel before or after each time you use the pistol. I like to keep some grease in the other parts of my pistols, and I don't clean the slide rails and such that often. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
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