BFOUR Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I saw the MSAR concept Carbine awhile abck and had this project in mind and finaly started it. The outer shell is a JG Aug, the inner gun is a KWA G18C If you look closley the mechanism that pushes the trigger is the original from the JG Aug, turned upside down and a old BAR10 Hop up arm id plasticwelded onto it. Magazine release functions very well. Needs to be cleaned up a bit but it works for now. I epicly messed up in the staging process and cut the inner cocking mechanisms not relizing I would need them/could mod them. So now Im thinking of a way to cock the slide back. To do list: Bolt release Sanding inside for slide clearance Tap the upper reciever Exterior magwell [Plastic sheet and bondo] Modify Ejection Port Ive also got an idea for a slide release so I can seal this up but still do maintenace but have the Glock slide slide out the front of the reciever. Well see what happens. If I got make a mechanical Mechanism I will simply mill out slots to get some small screw drivers in there to push down the button. Ill update tomorrow dpending on how what else I get done. Link to post Share on other sites
karrektor Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 hey, quick question , what seperates this from an aug? would it have been easier to make a modification to the magwell? or is it that you wanted to create a gas fed low cap ? just trying to get a handle on the concept. dont think im critisising ya hehe just unfimiliar with that model. Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 hey, quick question , what seperates this from an aug? would it have been easier to make a modification to the magwell? or is it that you wanted to create a gas fed low cap ? just trying to get a handle on the concept. dont think im critisising ya hehe just unfimiliar with that model. The real one runs off of Glock standard and extended mags. Its being offered in 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45. I did want the gas fed low cap, and I plain old like doing custom jobs lol. I talked to a guy who owns this gun and when you break it down he said its almsot exactly as if they suspended a glock inside the frame. I had the Glock I had the AUG so I saif why not lol. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Wow. Very cool, im doing a similar thing, nice to know this will work! Link to post Share on other sites
karrektor Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 lol seems to be a trend atm stuffing a pistol in a carbine body, still should be cool easy way for us airsofters to get a gas fed custom carbine ! seen that utterly horrible 1911 carbine ? the H.E.R.A was cool this should be interesting but the 1911 OMG reminisant of a broom handle with a scope! Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Yeah I guess it is. But the real steel is completley on its own level, only using Glock Magazines. the original was similar to someone slamemd a pistol down an Augs throat but the grey one(the production model) has its own setup inside. The HERA is very nice and that was my original project but I dropped it. Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I have bad news, the MCS is gonna look somewhat different from the prototype. It ejects from the bottom, as well as having swappable mag wells (still a maybe on that part though), it will also come in 357 sig and possibly 5.7 It also might end up having ambidextrous charging handles. Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I have bad news, the MCS is gonna look somewhat different from the prototype. It ejects from the bottom, as well as having swappable mag wells (still a maybe on that part though), it will also come in 357 sig and possibly 5.7 It also might end up having ambidextrous charging handles. Yeah I know about that. Anything that is ambi is by shooters choice. You swap the part to the other side along witha left handed bolt face. I was glad to find out it ejects fromt he bottom cause that means less fill in work. The grey one I have posted is whats in production right now. Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 "The grey one I have posted is whats in production right now." LOL, NOPE. The gun is still deep in prototype stages, all sorts of things have changed since then. Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 "The grey one I have posted is whats in production right now." LOL, NOPE. The gun is still deep in prototype stages, all sorts of things have changed since then. Do you have some proof cause Ive talked to the company about it before I made the post and this is what they showed me Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 The best proof I have is that Joe (known on AR 15 as Rizzo5586) their head engineer (and only gun engineer right now) is one of my best friends. That is the most recent produced real prototype, but seeing as how guns are made in computers now, the design evolves a LOT between manufacturing tests. The thing is they have been putting all the effort into getting the Archangel pistol on the street.So right now the MCS development has slowed dramatically. It should resume full swing soon, as I believe that is the next release target. My point is really that at this point basing a gun off it is a little silly, as so much can change between now and its release. Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Breen Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 My point is really that at this point basing a gun off it is a little silly, as so much can change between now and its release. However, this is airsoft where style wins out over substance every time. Link to post Share on other sites
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