Drift

[masterairsoft]

I bought this gun minus the SOPMOD stock and Red-dot for $460 from Drift.

 

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=26498

 

 

It arrived last week, but i couldn;t test it to shoot it until sunday when at a game, my friend lended me one of his mags, 10 mags laters (from multiple people) i finally found one that fit.

 

That is THE most minor problem.... My other problem is that the internals are a POS. With less then 1 yes i said 1 std throught it, the gun stopped fring bbs. From the sound of it, many of the experienced players said it is either the gears, motor head, tappet plate, and/ or piston.

 

I have Emailed him and Pmed him everyday since sunday and still no response. I need help.

 

I want my money back and a full refund. I didn't pay $460+ shipping, for a gun that doesnt work, when i was told it did.

 

Even though i am a minor, my parents have told me that this is equal to fraud and money luandering they think.

 

I still have his address.

 

Thank you

Bryan Bonanno

[masterairsoft]

Anything you guys recommend doing??

[thegunrunner]

What exactly happens when you attempt to fire the gun? Perhaps something has fallen out of place?

 

If you're sure it's broken, call up the guy who sold it to you and work it out with him.

 

My friend was scammed once in Taiwan by someone who sold him a gun missing a few parts. It could fire a few times before the parts fell out of place and the gun stopped working. We never got a refund. Hopefully this won't be the same case for you.

[Buttons]

Can't say for sure whats up, but Drift used that there gun about 2 weeks ago (8/7/05) and it seemed to be running fine...

[masterairsoft]

well i have tried contacting him and he hasnt answered. If any talks to him can they please talk to him for me.

 

Well, the gun vibrates a lot and i recorded the noice and sent it to someone i know (Ronin of LIAS) and he siad that and how i described it sound like gears, motor head, possibley tappet plate and piston to.

 

So tight now i just want my money back and to forget about it.

[masterairsoft]

well.. he emailed me on thursday... saying that he doesnt think that he should refund my money... but rigth now, i don't care how the gun was shipped. i just want my money back.

[Raptor3388]

Was it broken when you shot the first round ? If not, that's not his problem anymore, but yours...

[Sledge]

Have you actually determined what's wrong with it yet?

 

[masterairsoft]

it was broken before I fired it because as I immediatly fired it it stopped working correctly, A local airsoft gunsmith and many other players who work on guns, said it sounds like the gears, motor, tappet, plate, etc. it could be any combination.

 

I paid for an operational gun not one that doesn't work.

 

Who should i contact to resolve this matter?

[joeking27]

Have someone look at to determine EXACTLY what is wrong with it. Then you can start asking him about it.

[kilo_64]

My other problem is that the internals are a POS. With less then 1 yes i said 1 std throught it, the gun stopped fring bbs.

 

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Well you said it. The gun fired once already. Soo he shipped you a working gun that worked but then stopped firing . I dont really get the point. You need to Know EXACTLY whats wrong with the gun to actually blame something on someone. Not just"ohh they said it was this or that" from the sound of a gearbox you won't know whats really wrong until you open it up.

[masterairsoft]

I sent it out today to get it checked.

 

Guys.... you aren't helping... i am asking for advise not critisism.

[Buttons]

But the thing is, we don't know A) what happened to it in shipment and what YOU did with it. For all we know you dipped it in Yak urine, then proceded to roll it in baby powder, dry firing it for 6 hours straight all before firing off a standard mag of metal BBs which had serious burrs!

[masterairsoft]

i left it in the box until the morning of the op which then i kept it in teh box all day until i shot it, it was with a brand new TM std and some brand new excel .25s. and a fully charged 9.6v 1700mah battery that drift sent.

 

I baby my guns, i keep then in a locked locker when im not using them.

[Black Jack]

I talk to him on AIM, he goes to evergreen airsoft, that's where I go, he couldn't make the last game though, you play there to buttons? whats your name there?

[Buttons]

My name? It's Buttons. Says so on the helmet. Look for the guy with the Balistic Armor Monkey on his platecarrier.

[Black Jack]

ok thanks, I use a p-90, and I'm small lol.

[masterairsoft]

got the list of whats in the gun..

 

G&P Piston head

Stock nozzle

stock gears (middle one is missing teeth and needs to be replaced)

Spring is a PDI 150

metal bushings

Systema Shims

Stock Piston

Stock spring guide

 

This is what is supposed to be in the gun:

 

Systema:

shims

oil less bushings

spring guide

air nozzle

piston head

m120 spring

[Black Jack]

I told him to talk to you on AIM, he was not available though.

[masterairsoft]

nope, i sent him the list either yesterday or the day before, and still no reply.

[Arnie]

Second hand gear is bought as seen normally. Given that it did work, then died you can't really fault the guy. It was obviously working when you got it.

 

Now that you've disected the AEG and found the broken part, just rebuild it with the new second gear and you'll be fine.

 

Stuff does break, and it's a real bumer when stuff dies after it's sold on, but you can't guarantee much past the first few shots, especially if it's upgraded.

[masterairsoft]

well i bought the gun thinking i would save money, now your saying i have to invest more money then what it it worth new to get it to work?

 

It didnt work from the first shot, it never worked properly, took it outa the box at a game to have it chronoed, plugged the battery in, inserted a mag (after trying like 10 others), and when i pulled the trigger everybody screamed stop and we all knew something was wrong from the get go.

 

I didn't take it uppon my self to have the gun inspected, the seller advised me to have it looked out to see what was wrong with it. I didn't touch anything on the gun at all.

 

My tech said that teh only part that was said to be in teh gun was the systema shims and bushings, other then that no internal part that was said to be there was.

 

The buyer is blaming the problem on me ocussing me of screwing with the gun, but i can assure you, i do not touch anything that involves internals. I left the gun in the box until the morning of the game. Which then i already told you what i did to it.

[Wallu]

Only thing i can tell you, is to open the gun and re-assembly it checking EVERY SINGLE part. Then you should know whats wrong and buy new parts to replace the broken ones, then re-assembly it completely. If that wont help, then the weapon is piece of plastic s**t.

[hartley]

you bought the gun second hand, therefore you do not have a leg to stand on, as DRIFT is not a registered seller. Look at it drifts POV, you could of dropped the gun and therfore broke it and are claiming the reason is the gears or something.

[Hissing_Sid]

The fair thing to do hear, IMO, would be for drift to return a few dollars to cover the cost of the broken part, at least.

 

I have never yet seen a privately-sold gun which contained the upgrade parts the seller said it had and which was actually in what I would call good condition.

A gun may have all the right parts in it but if it has been built by a chimp then the value is almost nil.

 

You need to factor that in when you make an offer.