Jett Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hey. These are available from WGC: Smokey's Bullpub Kit Smokey's Bullpup Upgrade Kit 1) Does anyone have any experience fitting them? Is it mega-techie or just a straight replacement job? 2) Am I right to assume they fit the AKS body? What about a metal one? 3) Anyone know where they can be obtained in the UK? If these questions have already been asked and answered in some previous thread someplace then please call me a fool and kindly direct me. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 they are apparently for ak47S .. thats right ... metal or no metal doesnt matter ... are you sure you want to spend that much though? after all... its not hard to do a bullpup convention by yourself? and seriously ... if you make it yourself youll probably get a better looking gun! :-P Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 That is very nice, especially if you made it yourself. Ever thought about going into business? The cost isn't so much a factor. I just didn't want to commit to getting all the kit only to find out I need access to NASA's tool kit to fit it. Link to post Share on other sites
HKG36 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 That is very nice, especially if you made it yourself. Ever thought about going into business? The cost isn't so much a factor. I just didn't want to commit to getting all the kit only to find out I need access to NASA's tool kit to fit it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats the smokey kit. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Krell Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I'm sorry sir but if you buy that conversion kit and install it i would have to get you arrested for rape. Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Never seen it fitted! Only in bits. It looks worth the cash though, I've done just about every other AK conversion but I've never seen anyone skirmishing with one of these badboys. Usually Lord, I would agree. However, to fully complete my Ukrainian loadout I need a Vepr, and this is as close as I think I'm gonna get. Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 you get a real steel bullpup convention kit for 2/3rd of the smokey price ... although you have to do something about the motor ... http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?prod...54&cat=0&page=1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt Craig Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Thats quite a nice looking gun actually, i take it that it's made up tho ? inspired by the Groza perhaps ? ( http://world.guns.ru/assault/as09-e.htm) Certainly a lot nicer than the UN Company Bullpub conversion i thought this thread was going to be about By the way, has anyone done an airsoft Groza conversion ? cheers, Craig EDIT: meant the gun in the original post, but that one above me is pretty damn cool too Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 the Groza is hard to make because the motor ... there has been some threads about it i think... how do the un company bullpup looks like? Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 While all this is facinating... (and the pics are making me wet...) Any chance anyone has an answer to my original questions? 1) How easy/hard is the Smokey's AK Bullpup kit to fit? 2) Does anyone know a UK stockist? Or is this a HK import job? Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 so this is what you really want? havent seen that variant before... Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 i havnt seen this kit ANYWHERE in the UK ever. and if it did it would cost a fortune. cant comment on the fit, but it doesn't look too difficult does it ? Link to post Share on other sites
gunner-airsoft Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 nice one!! so this is what you really want? havent seen that variant before... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt Craig Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 the Groza is hard to make because the motor ... there has been some threads about it i think... how do the un company bullpup looks like? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm, can't seem to find it might have been this one > http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/trade/productview/506 but i'm sure it was shorter. Link to post Share on other sites
Vulcan Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 While all this is facinating... (and the pics are making me wet...) Any chance anyone has an answer to my original questions? 1) How easy/hard is the Smokey's AK Bullpup kit to fit? 2) Does anyone know a UK stockist? Or is this a HK import job? Thank you! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I haven't got the answers to these questions but that conversion kit you showed is a Smokey's, and Smokey's often sounds like "no very good quality for a lot of money", but as other conversion kits they made, if you're sure you want to purchase it, than in my opinion it wouldn't be too difficult to install it. Link to post Share on other sites
hermann Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 ill fit it for you, for a modest fee, gimme a mini metal spetz and ill whip you up a bullpup special 'k in a day, (engraving Calisto on the cheekpiece will cost you extra tho) Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 You're lucky I know you, Hermann, you tubby mong. Go and get some excersise! Link to post Share on other sites
hermann Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 well that was uncalled for, i was just offering my vastly superior technical knowledge Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Agreed, it was uncalled for. And so are your breasts. Now stop clogging up my post with nonsense! Link to post Share on other sites
suck eggs boy Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Here is a link to what I belive is a Smokey's kit. It doesn't appear to have the "upgrade" kit ethier. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www...%3Doff%26sa%3DN Now, just wait until WGC has them in stock Link to post Share on other sites
claypigeon Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 nice link... I do know, that you have a good base for a futuristic, and functional bullpup if you make use of teh smokey kit, and adding some other features. What I would reccommend is to watch the movie "Soldier". With Kurt Russel. The first couple of combatscenes plus during the movie with all the hi-tec weapons and gear, you will find a bullpupriffel, that is clearly based on the AK, firing the 7.62 round. Maby a little plus for all of you Bullpuplovers out there. *S* Martin.... Link to post Share on other sites
made Man Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 You think that smokey kit would fit on the ICS AK? Link to post Share on other sites
Jett Posted March 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Made Man: I believe the Smokey's kit is for the AKS, so it wouldn't fit on the ICS AK (which has a butt right where your face would go) without some modification of the prongs. Certainly not impossible though... Back on topic for a bit; I recently spoke to the guys at Trapper and asked if they could convert a Type 86 Bullpup de-act into an airsoft version. They said "er... maybe". They also said it would cost around £600. They'd also have to machine a new body and it would take a few months R&D. They mentioned that I could use my existing 'K which would drop the price somewhat. I'm very temped. So far I've been anable to locate the Smokey's kit for sale in Europe or Japan and I don't think it's in production anymore (it's not in Smokey's 2006 trade catalogue anyway). So where to from here? Looks like I'm going to have to save for a few weeks and order me a Type 86. Ooooh I feel funny... Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 you realise converting de-acts is illegal ? Link to post Share on other sites
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