Gadge Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Obershcutze 9th SS Division 'Hohenstaufen' in Holland September 1944 The Hohenstaufen were an 'anti airlanding and invasion' division formed late in the war, they fought at Arnhem and Normandy amongst other places and were one of the only SS units to be completely free of accusations of war crimes. 99 per cent of this kit is repro. From top to bottom. M40 field cap with woven insignia Both these items from 'Northern Militaria' but can also be sourced from 'Spearhead' for much cheaper. Scarf is a plain white civvie cotton type material. Roughly £15 - £35 Tunic is a repro 1940 pattern tunic all in field grey, tunic cost about £40 from Spearhead miliaria (hereafter SP). insignia is included with the tunic Trousers are m43 kielhosen again from SP. Over this i'm wearing the 'dot44' or 'peadot' combat uniform/oversuit issued in march 44, this is usually worn without insignia over the filed grey uniform but could be worn on its own in summer. About £60 from SP. If you buy tunics from Barry Lyndon (aka SP) he tends to include the basic insignia and privates shoulder boards for free. Boots are post war 1950s jackboots various sources and about £30 (i got mine off a mate), post war ones ae good for airsoft as they look the same but have a rubber sole so you dont slide everywhere on hobnails. Short boots and green canvas gaiters are more appropriate and cost less (gaiters about £5 SU) Field equipment: SS enlisted mens belt. (£13 from 'dishmop' on ebay. Repro mp40 pouches from Soldier of Fortune (hereafter SOF) about £35 Original 1940 k98 bayonet as fighting knife £65 from militaria dealer repro 'y-straps' and utiltity straps about £30 off ebay. On rear is a bread bag £10 SU and a slighty post war water bottle and mug £15 from a militaria dealer. Also on rear gas mask cannister £15 from a militaria fair. Weapons AGM mp40 £95 with four extra mags from RSOV Repro stick grenades £10 each off ebay. Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I dont usually care for WW2 stuff but that is nice! Ii especially like the webbing, looks like some rudimentary assault vest. Would it be acceptable to replace the headwear with one of those m43 caps? And if they were to wear gloves, what type would they be? DArkchild Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Yep, m43 ski cap is a perfect alternative, i just wear a side cap as they were a mark of 'old sweats'. An m43 cap would have a deaths head on the front and the eagle on the side. Grey wool gloves or civilian leather ones would be fine. Kit guide for other ss kit including the sort of cap you want here: http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/pages/ss-kit-guide.html Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Thanks, i may have to start building a collection of SS gear, when my wallet allows me to. Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
obsessedwithairsoft Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 that is a tight loadout man. you totally look the part (that's the bad thing about being 14) Link to post Share on other sites
pjones Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 As usual, Gadge, you have both excellent kit and excellent documentation. Link to post Share on other sites
the_viral_phantom Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Looking good there mate, any idea's if it would look right with a field blue M83 in the loadout instead of the field cap? And well done on becoming one of the AI team Viral. Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Looking good Gadge, the only thing i'd mention is the boots. By '44, the only people (especially in a newly raised formation like the 9th SS) who would be wearing jackboots would be Senior NCO's and Officers (yes, Officers did wear jackboots as well as riding boots). Regarding gloves, if it's EM go for wool, if it's Officer then grey leather gloves. Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I'd have to query this mate. its a pretty common opinion RE boots however i've got a stack of pictures of 2nd panzer advancing to normandy and some of the new recruits have jackboots. Equally its rare but you do occasionally see dot 44 worn with marching boots. As i said in the original text low boots are more appropriate in general but as it happens i was wearing jackboots for that pic so i thought i would include them. But yeah in general you're right but i did say that jack boots were less appropriatein the first place Link to post Share on other sites
Mag58FN Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 love the loadout gadge. have you ever been accused of looking too british lol! Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 No but I'd see that as an amazing compliment being a gentleman and all that... what ho! Out of curiosity how does one look 'too British'. I mean i did occasionally used to DJ in cricket whites and tank top but thats as stereotypical as i got really Link to post Share on other sites
Mag58FN Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 if you were in a line up, id pick you out as the limey instantly lol and no, its not a bad thing Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Gadge any other decent links to suppliers. I'm toying with the idea of doing a late war ss uniform. Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Right spearhead are your cheapest via ebay. Next best bet is 'militaria.net' run by a guy called anthony in the UK and a diamond geezer, if you contact him tell him I told you to call Anthonys a little bit more expensive (but stil very reasonable) but its in the uk and its easier to get stuff exchanged if its the wrong size. http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/php/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=52 Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Cheers Gadge. When's the next game involving "zee Germans"? I'm back in the UK in april/may and quite fancy giving it a go. Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Cheers Gadge. When's the next game involving "zee Germans"? I'm back in the UK in april/may and quite fancy giving it a go. Well you'l miss our game this sunday But theirs an SS vs russian partisans game on May 10th in shropshire and Gunmans D-Day game in April! Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I might try for the april game (wife dependant!). I'm in the process of emailing Anthony over at militeria.net to see if he still does the £150 german loadout. I will add bits to it but it seems a good deal to start out with. Link to post Share on other sites
kasman2010 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Very nice, looks professional, well documented. The bakelite version of the agm mp40 looks really nice in that pic. You should get a steilhelm, dont know the actual name. One of the best looking helmets IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Mag58FN Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I find that 1944Airbborne.com has good prices in the UK. i live in the states and ive even ordered from them Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 1944airborne = Soldier of Fortune, purveyor of many an item thats either A: wrong B: badly made c: expensive when compared to other suppliers Though, to be fair, you do sometimes find stuff on there at a good price, but not often! Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Very nice, looks professional, well documented. The bakelite version of the agm mp40 looks really nice in that pic. You should get a steilhelm, dont know the actual name. One of the best looking helmets IMO. Yeah i have one chap. M40 stalhelm I have mine oversprayed 'dunkelgelb' and usually wear it with breadbag strags securing foliage, sometimes for Heer impressions i use a splinter pattern helmet cover and a strip of inner tube to secure foliage, like this Link to post Share on other sites
Mag58FN Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 1944airborne = Soldier of Fortune, purveyor of many an item thats either A: wrong B: badly made c: expensive when compared to other suppliers Though, to be fair, you do sometimes find stuff on there at a good price, but not often! well for example. a BAR belt in the states is like 80-100 bucks if you can find one (which you cant). SOF has them for 19 quid! thats still just 40 USD! translation: F*CK YEAH Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Although the metal work is from reports ive heard shocking and shatters very easily on those repro us webbing items. Link to post Share on other sites
Mag58FN Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 i have no idea what you just said to me Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Erm, well its in quite clear Queens English chap. I'll break it down From reports i have heard. About SOF repro US webbing items, the metal work on the belts is shockingly poor (its monkey metal). It breaks very easily. Thats why its cheap. Link to post Share on other sites
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