bankz5152 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Posted on the main Arnies news page but I though it deserved some discussion! https://youtu.be/t-__X1xKMXg I personally find this very exciting, especially since it can take 2 carts at once, that should give at least 100 rounds worth of gas. Also has the potential to be modified Devil Hunter style for dual fuel. Quick Google reveals they also make standard GG mags for the Kriss? http://www.ebairsoft.com/tokyo-arms-magazine-kriss-p-9217.html?language=jp Anyone know anything about Tokyo Arms? I've never heard of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 That base plate design looks awful, pin spanner then what looks to be a little screwdriver to install it? I can't see that wearing well.. Interesting to see new things still coming out for the Kriss long after KWA stopped making them though. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Doesnt look ideal, I expect thats to pierce the lower bulb. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Can you even get Vectors still? Under a KWA sub brand/grey brand? Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 DEVIL HUNTER MOD X KV MAGS Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thats what I said!!! I bet you could pretty easy. If it can be done and the mags are good quality I may get a few, DHM them and run Co2 or Propane on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ^Want to be the beta tester? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Maybe.... lol on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Can you even get Vectors still? Under a KWA sub brand/grey brand? There is New Old Stock floating around, and they pop up on ebay regularly for wild sums. Evike had a stash--still might--that they were putting in their Boxes of Awesomeness promotions. I would agree with the above comments though, that the cap looks like a loser idea. The base of the magazine looks less than professionally done as well. I would rather have a hose input for a remote CO2 bottle. But I don't think I would have the confidence to run the Vector on CO2 anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I would agree with the above comments though, that the cap looks like a loser idea. The base of the magazine looks less than professionally done as well. I would rather have a hose input for a remote CO2 bottle. But I don't think I would have the confidence to run the Vector on CO2 anyway. It's not the gas that's the issue, more the pressure it's regulated down to, if you ran it from external Co2 regulated down to the same pressure as green gas it wouldn't wear any faster but you'd have far less cooldown but you can already do that with existing magazines if you want to. Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 What I meant was the pressure. I would run the CO2 unregulated. I have a KWC mini UZI that is a real monster on the bottle. But I don't think I would want to risk breaking something as pricey as my Vector, which was not designed to run on CO2 in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 You have a point but the mags may well account for that. The RATech Glocl Co2 mags output the Co2 just above the pressure off Propane. These may do the same. Or DHM modding the mag and fill with regulated Co2. on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
Mechcondrid Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 i think i'll just leave these crossposts here since you guys seem interested.... NEASG Airsoftsociety me thinks you guys will be pleased with these (especially with the price and quality) Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 You have a point but the mags may well account for that. The RATech Glocl Co2 mags output the Co2 just above the pressure off Propane. These may do the same. Or DHM modding the mag and fill with regulated Co2. on my phone, my spelling will suck That would be interesting if the mag toned down the pressure. I could see myself trying one then. As for the Apple Airsoft/CQB Master mags, they are cosmetically nice. There is really no difference in appearance save the absence of 45 ACP (I believe) on the plastic spacer. I bought two mags and one is NG--the feed lips, which are metal, are spread too wide and triple feed--very reliably too! Jammed my gun up pretty good. The other works just fine. I've seen a number of references to the DH mod--gonna have to check that out... Link to post Share on other sites
Mechcondrid Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 That would be interesting if the mag toned down the pressure. I could see myself trying one then. As for the Apple Airsoft/CQB Master mags, they are cosmetically nice. There is really no difference in appearance save the absence of 45 ACP (I believe) on the plastic spacer. I bought two mags and one is NG--the feed lips, which are metal, are spread too wide and triple feed--very reliably too! Jammed my gun up pretty good. The other works just fine. I've seen a number of references to the DH mod--gonna have to check that out... not sure if you have the same revision as mine then maybe? mine are only missing the kriss banding (so it shows the .45ACP and the round count text) and the feed lips are most definitely NOT metal; mine have the standard plastic feed lip. the box they came in is the apple airsoft packaging but have the cqb master / evike barcode upc tacked on. i bought 5 and all 5 are in perfect working order (though one now has a small crack on the magazine end cap on the bottom due to me dropping it by accident, though nothing major) Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Glad you posted this--you are correct. After looking at the mags again in better light, feed lips are definitely plastic. And the CQB mags ONLY say .45 ACP. I actually mixed up the "genuine" mag with the CQB mag. And while I was wondering why my KWA mag would start leaking all of a sudden after more than a year, turns out it was actually my second CQB mag that has failed--it's leaking at the base plate, with propane bubbling out past the pins...So 2 failures out of two for me Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 NOT IMPRESSED! 2J and drops to 1.6 in like 15 rounds. Sad at best. Way too hot, way bad cooldown. QUESTION: So the gun isn't being made anymore? By anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
Crying Scum Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'll be frank with you guys. The KWA version is unlikely to happen again. There is a lot of bitterness between both companies... As for making GBB vector, that will have to be determine later. Here's what allizard said about GBB vector from Krytac Kriss Vector AEG topic. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 NOT IMPRESSED! 2J and drops to 1.6 in like 15 rounds. Sad at best. Way too hot, way bad cooldown. QUESTION: So the gun isn't being made anymore? By anyone? Elaborate? Here's what allizard said about GBB vector from Krytac Kriss Vector AEG topic. Basically KWA off Kriss and Kriss cancelled their contract. Being a new firearm its totally protected so no one can make another. I expect China hasnt bothered due to its complicated design. Personally I think it is one of the best airsoft guns ever created and I would sooner loose a toe than loose my Vector. Sooner stop playing airsoft than use the AEG. I am nervous about using Co2 mags in the Vector unless the pressure can be regulated down to a more stable 160psi - 180psi or so. Could this be done by DH modding the mag with a fill valve and filling with Co2 from a regulated tank? Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am nervous about using Co2 mags in the Vector unless the pressure can be regulated down to a more stable 160psi - 180psi or so. Could this be done by DH modding the mag with a fill valve and filling with Co2 from a regulated tank? Yes, but you'll only get Co2 vapour in the magazine and no more than a few shots, if you're putting liquid in it will always be at it's normal pressure for the temperature. Restricting the flow from the release valve may work to bring the output down but even 160psi is quite a bit higher than the pressure of green gas. If you want a properly regulated stable gas pressure then you really need to look at adapting the normal magazines to run from external Co2 or HPA, then you can set it at whatever you want. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I see, thanks for the response. I know propanes about 120psi maybe 160 is a little too hot still a far cry better than 800! Could you potentially limit the amount of Co2 being released by making the gap below the router with a shim? Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Could you potentially limit the amount of Co2 being released by making the gap below the router with a shim? Potentially yes, AI did flow restrictors that sat below the router on WA pistol magazines to allow green gas to be used many years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hmmm interesting....! on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Old school parts! http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Airsoft-Innovations-Flow-Restrictor-for-WA-pistol-p/05216.htm From the photo it looks like it really restricted the gas flow with the tiny hole in it. Link to post Share on other sites
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