sandstorm Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Northeast Airsoft is releasing MP2 GBB, or more recognizably, West German Uzi smg. Available for pre-order at least on KicBB. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 I already put in a pre-order, so I'll be happy to talk about it when it comes in. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 Same. Personally would rather Hebrew markings and NE said they will, but I can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 15 hours ago, renegadecow said: Same. Personally would rather Hebrew markings and NE said they will, but I can't wait. NE does so many variations on their limited Smgs, that I am holding back a bit for wood stocked 16" barrel police carbine. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 9 hours ago, sandstorm said: NE does so many variations on their limited Smgs, that I am holding back a bit for wood stocked 16" barrel police carbine. Someone on FB asked about a 16" version and NE said they aren't planning to. Can I ask what police used a 16" Uzi? I was under the impression that 16" barrels solely existed to meet US NFA requirements for civilian owners. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted April 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 They denied that they were working on the Uzi ever since someone noticed one in the back of early Sten work in progress photos, so it's not like they couldn't say one, and then roll out something else couple of years later. As for police use of 16" barrel carbines, that's something that I am not too certain about either. Police in Europe did use semi-only versions of SMGs as supplement to sidearms, but don't know if they had same with Uzis... Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Highly unlikely they'll do the 16". not enough interest. Also not just a longer barrel, theres the matter of converting the mech to closed bolt. As for Police use of em, highly unlikely, pretty sure they where basically for US Civilian use. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 5:17 AM, sandstorm said: As for police use of 16" barrel carbines, that's something that I am not too certain about either. Police in Europe did use semi-only versions of SMGs as supplement to sidearms, but don't know if they had same with Uzis... I've seen semi-only conversions for police use, but the usual method for that was to simply weld or rivet a blocker into the selector track so that the gun cannot be switched to full auto. That's a cheap and easy conversion for open-bolt full-auto guns if all you are worried about is functionally locking out automatic fire. The US BATFE, however, considers any open bolt gun a machine gun regardless of its fire control, and barrel length under 16" makes even a closed-bolt gun a Title II short-barreled rifle (SBR), so Uzis imported into the US for commercial sale have a substantially different closed-bolt system (that cannot accept FA bolts) and 16" barrels. Government customers, like the Secret Service, just bought standard off-the-shelf full-auto 10" Uzis. I'm not aware of any government, police, or military forces ever using either closed-bolt or 16"-barrel Uzis. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 Looks like they started shipping them out to retailers 謝亨利 on Instagram: “I just received a strange package. Want to open it? #wgcshop #airsoft” Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Got mine yesterday. Overall impression is that this is a very, very nicely made replica- and I have the real thing to compare against- with just a few teething problems I'm working through. Northeast says they're revising the design to account for all issues I've spotted, so the second batch should have them ironed out and NE is promising parts for existing owners. One thing I was concerned about and figure someone else is wondering- the nozzles are glued shut but they're nylon and very easy to un-glue by wicking a bit of acetone into the gap, and once opened, the rocket valve is a standard hollow WE type so trivially easy to adjust FPS. I've got this one working at a consistent 1J now so I can use it in CQB. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Is that wooden stock from your real one? But it doesn't look half bad. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Mine's on a slow boat. Ordered from KIC and apparently all Taiwan sales were delayed due to some legal requirements so everyone else gets theirs weeks earlier. There's a guy on YT who's had a heap of trouble, but it's mostly down to top cover fitment which you can see in one of NE's videos being rectified by a literal hammer. Unironically, this is a problem on real Uzis too at least when changing top covers. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 7 hours ago, sandstorm said: Is that wooden stock from your real one? But it doesn't look half bad. Yup. The real folding stock was a drop-in fit, but the wood stock needed a tiny bit of filing to its mounting bracket. Probably just part-to-part fitment. 12 minutes ago, renegadecow said: Mine's on a slow boat. Ordered from KIC and apparently all Taiwan sales were delayed due to some legal requirements so everyone else gets theirs weeks earlier. There's a guy on YT who's had a heap of trouble, but it's mostly down to top cover fitment which you can see in one of NE's videos being rectified by a literal hammer. Unironically, this is a problem on real Uzis too at least when changing top covers. Yeah, although there's just a little more to it than that. On mine, I've noticed the top cover is tighter at the front of the bolt's travel than the rear, so the hammer adjustment method (which, as you note, is a thing on real Uzis too) would result in the bolt being unable to fully close before it resulted in reliable tripping of the disconnector. I had to instead modify the rear of the top cover just a bit, to make the back end sit lower without affecting the front. The underlying issue is that the disconnector is just a bit too short. Northeast says they're releasing a larger disconnector to solve the problem, and with their Stens at least they provided replacement/fixed parts for free to existing owners, so I'm not too bothered. In the meantime, mine does work as it should. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Got a video together. Started off as a review but turned into more of a complete overview. Link to post Share on other sites
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