_BlackHawk_ Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 to be honest i dont know how to take the torch grip off because im very new 2 the sport but depending on how long it takes 2 change i was thinking of changing it in combat for the different roles ill undertake but i wud like 2 use it as a sniper personally Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 to be honest i dont know how to take the torch grip off because im very new 2 the sport but depending on how long it takes 2 change i was thinking of changing it in combat for the different roles ill undertake but i wud like 2 use it as a sniper personally <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well *i think* that it simply unscrews and then you attach the other grip, in a matter of minutes (if that) but the barrel, i think would take longer and be much harder. well it would certainly be different than any other sniper rifle that anyone has. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 lol that a good thing?? it seems good and doesnt seem that hard 2 use but i still am looking at a few other guns such as a uzi just for support if need and a few nades wot u think? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 lol that a good thing?? it seems good and doesnt seem that hard 2 use but i still am looking at a few other guns such as a uzi just for support if need and a few nades wot u think? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, if you want to be different. apparently the uzi aren't good, if you want something like that, then get an ingram mac, ingram mac they are good, but there are some issues *apperently*. Just upgrade the bolt (£35-£40) a couple of spare mags (£30 each) and get some green gas and you've got a great little gun (25-30 rounds a second!!!) and do you mean pyros? Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 yea i did cool thanks any guns apart from the uzi i cud get for back up? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 yea i did cool thanks any guns apart from the uzi i cud get for back up? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, a pistol, or a machine pistol. i'd say the ingram mac, a glock 17, glock 18c, glock 19, berreta, whatever you like the look of, just say and me or someone else will tell you if its made, if its good etc. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well it cant be 2 much coz i aint spending tht muvh on a back up gun so in the area of £100 tht seem reasonable or u think i may need 2 spend more? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well it cant be 2 much coz i aint spending tht muvh on a back up gun so in the area of £100 tht seem reasonable or u think i may need 2 spend more? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> these guns you can get for less than £100... glock kwa glock 17 + metal slide = £75... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 18c + metal slide = £75... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 19 + metal slide = £65... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 23f + metal slide = £69... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 26 + metal slide = £60... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 beretta tm beretta m92f military = £89... spare mag £22 each, extended mag £30 tm beretta 92f tactical master = £95... spare mag £22 each, extended mag £30 kwa beretta m93r = £75... spare mag £30 each*extended mag standard other kwa ingram m11a1 = £75... spare mag £30 each tm p226 rail = £95... spare mag £22 each kwa usp compact = £79... spare mag £15 each *special offer*usually £25* these are just a few under £100 gas = £10 3000 rounds of ammo £5.50 what you need is a gun, 1-2 spare mags, 3000+ rounds of ammo, can of gas or two and your set. edit: i think the glocks have metal slides. You will need to spend more than £100 to get everything, but not just on the gun, but spare mags and gas and ammo do add up. a gun with 1 mag, 1 can of gas and 3000 rounds of ammo, that should cost about... £120-£145 thats probably the minimum you will want to get. I would suggest two mags, 6000 rounds of ammo and two or one can of gas. But as you dont want to spend much, i think that what i put above, about the minimum you'll want to get, is what you should go for. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 these guns you can get for less than £100... glock kwa glock 17 + metal slide = £75... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 18c + metal slide = £75... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 19 + metal slide = £65... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 23f + metal slide = £69... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 kwa glock 26 + metal slide = £60... spare mag £20 each, extended mag £30 beretta tm beretta m92f military = £89... spare mag £22 each, extended mag £30 tm beretta 92f tactical master = £95... spare mag £22 each, extended mag £30 kwa beretta m93r = £75... spare mag £30 each*extended mag standard other kwa ingram m11a1 = £75... spare mag £30 each tm p226 rail = £95... spare mag £22 each kwa usp compact = £79... spare mag £15 each *special offer*usually £25* these are just a few under £100 gas = £10 3000 rounds of ammo £5.50 what you need is a gun, 1-2 spare mags, 3000+ rounds of ammo, can of gas or two and your set. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks alot mate been a great help which one out of those guns do u recommend or whih 1 wud u use personally? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well, with the ingram m11a1 you would probably want to upgrade the bolt, and the mags are expensive and it eats ammo up like hell. So thats out. i'd recommend any of the glocks (mostly 17, 18c and 19) beretta m92f military, usp compact and the sig is very good, but i dont like the looks (maybe you do) the glocks are all cheap, £65-£75, beretta is £89, usp compact £79 and the sig p226 rail is £95. mainly i say go glock, reliable, cheap, they come with a metal slide *i think* which makes them full metal (as the real glocks slide is metal, but the grip, trigger, trigger guard etc. are all polymer) for your price range i say go glock, i would say go glock anyway. Other guns are good, but a bit pricey considering that you will want to buy mags as well etc. edit: take a look at AAs gas blowback range just click on the links off there. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 to be honest looks arent important i want a reliable gun as ima noobie just like all black gun tho coz i think tht silver guns might be easy 2 spot in a skirmish Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well those guns are all black (most of them are anyway) go for a glock 17, 18c, or 19 glocks are cheap and reliable. Great guns. Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 If you're going for SAS CRW sniper loadout you could get a SG1, it'd look sweet. One thing that I will say to contradict elitsniper, SIGs are even more reliable, as cheap and as accurate as glocks. Plus they look great. J/k Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 i known that the sigs are more reliable, but i think that the rail looks a bit, well, odd. And the glocks are £20-£25 cheaper. Good gun all the same, but i was suggesting glocks because they are the cheapest, they are reliable, they look great (IMO, although some people disagree) and accurate. and to correct my earlier post, only the glock 19 comes with a metal slide as standard. edit: although an msg90 would look even better, but thats getting out of your budget... and i think hes already bought the mp5 thingy. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 ive had alook at the glock and im guna go4 glock 19 do ppl carry knives? coz i might buy 1 of those and wots a good vest 2 buy? Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I was just jokin dude I like glocks aswell as SIGs Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 ive had alook at the glock and im guna go4 glock 19 do ppl carry knives? coz i might buy 1 of those and wots a good vest 2 buy? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well i carry a rubber knife (sometimes) just for looks, but i'd be very careful about knives see the thread on the newbie section. a good vest, well what price were you thinking of? where are you going to be skirmishing? and i wouldn't wear a vest as a sniper, but as you have the mp5 thingy, and in that case i would probably have some form of vest. As a sniper with a bolt action, i wear ghillie things (my ghillie suit is on hold, as i am saving all my money for guns before the vcrb) but as you have the mp5 thing, i would expect your role to be more of a scout/rifleman, so get back to me with your price range and where you will be skirmishing and i'll give you some info on good vests. Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well i have got the mp5 sniper thing... umm prob bout £30-90 im going to be skirming all over we have jusdt hired 50arces for practice and soon we might skirmish on that. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 well i have got the mp5 sniper thing... umm prob bout £30-90 im going to be skirming all over we have jusdt hired 50arces for practice and soon we might skirmish on that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so woodland i assume Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 yea woodland british DPM my mates says i aint a clue really about all this stuff wen can i giv people rep? coz id like 2 give you some Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Get a Arktis or Web-Tex vest for British DPMCF, you can rep at 50 posts, keep postin Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 yea woodland british DPM my mates says i aint a clue really about all this stuff wen can i giv people rep? coz id like 2 give you some <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you can give out rep when your post count reaches 50. here is something that a posted in another thread about assault vest... another vest i would reccomend, is the highlander assault vest the only thing is it costs around £60. comes in dpm, holds 6 m16/m4 mags, has 4 pouches that hold pat 58 water bottles, cans of gas, ammo, more mags, hats, scrims, radio. two removable chest pouches, for small radios, hats, scrims etc. two inside map pouches that are the size as the entire front of the vest, has a holster (holds berretas, glocks, medium frame pistols, prob not a DE though) you could keep it lose in there though and put scrims, hats, gas, ammo etc. in there too. There is a same size pocket opposite to it, but this has two pistol mag pouches (6 inches long *roughly* and 1 and a bit inches wide *roughly*) these fit berreta mags with a good inch and a bit left in length and a bit of room in width etc. so should easily fit DE mags. and another pouch (i put cam cream in it) you could put anything of a similar size in there. knife pouch, *holds 6 inch knife* (well it holds my rubber training knife which has a 6 inch blade *roughly, i dont have a ruler on me*) also has belt loops inside for more secure attachment to yourself. has 4 D rings for attaching right angle torch, grenades and it also has the relevent buckles for attaching a pair of rocket pouches (back pack/day sacks). it can be worn over body armour too. very durable, used by paras over in iraq now. i have both of these vests and i had the la swat vest by viper. if its between the SAAV (south african assault vest) and the LA swat vest (they are the same price) i would say SAAV because a) has more pouches b )looks better c) its all camo (unlike the LA swat vest which is only partly camo) d) more choice of camoflague colours out of all of them i would say highlander because it has a) more pouches b ) way more durable c) has a holster d) hm forces use it to SAAV pros: cheap good amount of pouches good choice of colours holds 10 m16/m4 mags, that in theory means around 20 mp5 mags cons: can be quite bright when new has be known to rip slightly sometimes (hasn't ever happened to mine though) LA swat vest pros: cheap lightweight and comfortable holds 12 m16/m4 mags or 22-24 mp5 mags (in theory as they are half the size as m16/m4 mags) has a 5 shotgun shell pouch too (in case you have a shotgun to) cons: not totally camoflagued no dpm not amazing amount of pouches (6 mag pouches, shotgun shell pouch and utility pouch) Highlander assault vest pros: extremly durable great amount of pouches for all your kit includes holster and 2 pistol mag pouches day sack attachment points holds 6 m16/m4 mags or in theory 12 mp5 mags, more space for mags in other pouches too. cons: more expensive than both of the others at £60-£70 that might help you decide. edit: web-tex make a similar assault vest to the highlander one, but the highlander one is much better, i have been told that web-tex is very bad by some people. Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I would still say a lower end Arktis, and never a LA SWAT vest or SAAV becaue they are rubbish in my eyes the LA SWAT vest isn't even named right Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I would still say a lower end Arktis, and never a LA SWAT vest or SAAV becaue they are rubbish in my eyes the LA SWAT vest isn't even named right <{POST_SNAPBACK}> its meant to be the la special forces vest, i just copied and pasted it from a post i'd done before, on another thread about an assault vest. and the highlander vest is great, i'll get you a link. Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I know about the highlander vest but Arktis just screams QUALITY at me Link to post Share on other sites
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