Sgt. Stinger Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, my question is what the topic says Can you build a GBB pistol from scratch from upgrade parts alone? I feel it would be cheaper than to buy a gun and upgrade it later, only using some minimal parts from the original gun such as trigger, trigger spring, hammer and such... Am I right or wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
xp67 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In theory, yes you could, but I reckon it would cost a lot more than to buy a new gun. For example, when I was consideirng my M15A4 (not a GBB, but this is an example): Metal Body: £110 Carry Handle: £50 Outer Barrel: £44 Pistol Grip: £20 Total cost: £224 Whereas I can get a full gun with these exact parts plus stock, front end bits, all the internals (probably equal to another £200), and a hi-cap for £220! Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Get the stock gun as a base and upgrade that as you go Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Some guns can be built from scratch, for example the WA Magna system based .45s. Can't think of any others right now, since parts like the hop-up chamber and blowback chamber are not available for most guns. Link to post Share on other sites
Silo Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 it probably depends on what gun you want. most guns i know dont have extra parts, youd have a pretty shoddy d-eagle if you assembled it from upgraded parts. me thinks your going to hve to lup the stock gbb like the rest of us mate. Link to post Share on other sites
AngryTrucker Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 if you could do that it'll probably cost more or less the same as those custom special jobs since all the parts are upgrades.. Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stinger Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 So there are some parts you just cant get on most guns? It was mostly a hypothetical question since I probably wont afford airsoft until I get a job after I'm done with school... How ever, if you could build it from upgrade parts, I'm pretty sure it would be a fun thing to try, since I'm quite mechanical minded so to say. xp67: how was the quality of the upgrade parts compared to the stock metal parts? were the upgrade parts for the same gun you wound up buying? I think that the durability/looks/performance of the gun would be so much more satisfying if you built it of upgrade parts rather than buying it in full metal from the factory... Well, at least for GBB pistols! I have looked at quite a few friends airsoft pistols, and compared the factory full metal model compared to the custom slide/frame full metal, and quality and looks on the "factory" aren't even near the same as the "upgraded" as far as i can tell... Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 It would definitely be fun building one from the ground up, but as the guys above have said, things like hop chambers and blow back assemblies arent available for literally any gbbs as an off the shelf item. I spose if you managed to get the bits like that second hand, and then buy the rest of the bits from retailers it would be possible. Definitely wouldnt be a cheap or easy task though ! Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stinger Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yeah I get quite turned on off the idea If i ever afford to do it it will be done Suppose you could start with almost any plastic mauri or WA clone since there are plenty of slides and frames for those brands... Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well I'm planning to build a full metal WA 1911 (SCW2), most of the parts are available for it but I wanted to the option of being able to build it in stages - a full metal 1911 costs a small fortune to put together too So I bought I've bought the gun first. Soon I'll be buying a frame and slide and then I'll address the other areas such as the barrel, grips, hammer. In the meantime I got a 1911 to plink around with Link to post Share on other sites
xp67 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 xp67: how was the quality of the upgrade parts compared to the stock metal parts? were the upgrade parts for the same gun you wound up buying? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The parts I listed were all stock parts. They are the same as those which would come with a new gun The body parts that the M15A4's come with don't really need upgrading. I did consider replacing the damaged parts on my old M15A4 with new parts, but as you can see - as soon as I saw that it would not be worth it I bought a brand new one and split the old one for parts. Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stinger Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, that sounds like reasonable thinking Im graduating from my gymnasium school in the summer (no its not got anything to do with athletics, its just called that in Sweden for unknown weird reasons ), so maybe then I'll get a job to pay for all my cravings (including new computer, lots o' airsofts and hopefully a car) Link to post Share on other sites
Zero_DgZ Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Dunno. Some of the KWA guns have every part available online somewhere if you look. They won't all be upgrade parts, but you could proably buy all the bits for at least a few guns off the top of my head and assemble them into a working piece. What you should do is get a stock one, then piece at a time upgrade it completely. Then take all your stock parts and build a second gun. Link to post Share on other sites
El_Hombre Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I know I've seen Marui Hicapa and P226 blowback chambers and loading...thingies. They were at Airsoft Extreme (US dealer) iirc. EDIT: Also at WGC, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stinger Posted February 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 So if I can accept some standard parts it will be possible at least on KWA guns I know that you can buy lots of factory parts for the HFC m190 series, wich as far as I can remember is a mauri clone... i have at least seen blowback assembly for it... As much cheaper it had been to just buy a new HFC m190 full metal, I dont really like the paint finnish on those guns, + i like the m9 look over the elite look. Link to post Share on other sites
xp67 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Why can you not just buy a gun then buy every available upgrade part for it? The stock parts are so expensive that this would be a cheaper option - especially if you then sell the stock parts on as spares. Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stinger Posted February 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 hmm, yeah i noticed that the spares were grossly overpriced... good point about selling all the stuff from the donor gun, should actually make the project more affordable Link to post Share on other sites
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