Shard Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 No doubt I've probably missed the post that already mentioned this X amount of hours/days/weeks ago already despite my search to check, but: http://www.mojji.com/jp/fax/fax1776.htm http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/01/mp7a1/images/07.jpg TM are at last set to release their official adaptor to use the Prolight specifically with the MP7 in the next couple of days. This opens up another option to us MP7 users who want more power / rof, but don't want to go with a laylax external adaptor & a battery sling, or an anpeq. I reckon it will look the smartest when going for a solution to get a bigger battery Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I'll probably be getting one. I'm doing a lot of CQB training in an old prison with www.sword-tactical.com We do a lot of low light training and you HAVE to have a weapons light when you are in a place like this with no power at midnight! Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I thought that first photo had messed up when loading for a moment there, shows what my mental capacity is like after 7 hours work on an report today Looks like a cool place to play, and I can see why a prolight would be a good investment. I wish I could do more urban as I'd be more content to get one myself, but there aren't that many sites near me for it. That and I'd only get it if i were using the MP7 as a primary, holstering would be tricky with a big old tac light on the side Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Well, my G36K went down so i was using my MP7 instead. I brought it for just that reason, compleate with a seperate vest set up to support it. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ehh. Is there a girl on the team? *points at 2nd person from the left* That better be a girl. Don't tell me it's a guy standing like that. "I'm too sexy for my BDUs.." Link to post Share on other sites
visionviper Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Is it just me or do those CQB photos remind you of Nova Prospect in Half-life 2?? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yep. Looking at those photos it could even be the place they modeled it on W00t post 600! Link to post Share on other sites
MP5SD5 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Excuse my DumbA$$ness but what is it? A bigger battery? Or somthing? Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Its an adaptor that allows you to make use of the TM Prolight, which can function as a normal weapons light / larger capacity or both Link to post Share on other sites
MP5SD5 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Oh, I was thinking about a prolite to shove on the side rail, along with a reflex site, so I may inest in one, as I plan to whip on the '7 for when we breach the buildings (I plan to be a DM) Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 In which case if you are already intending to mount a prolight, having the adaptor running the light / gun together would be perfect I'd have thought Link to post Share on other sites
MP5SD5 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I dunno I want to put a (same volt as MP7 battery) 3300mah one on the stock, and run the prolight from its original source. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I dunno I want to put a (same volt as MP7 battery) 3300mah one on the stock, and run the prolight from its original source. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And your MP7's garbox will explode! Even at 7.2v a 3.3amp pack will have a MUCH higher discharge rate and that poor mech box can't handle it. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Andrews Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 And your MP7's garbox will explode! Even at 7.2v a 3.3amp pack will have a MUCH higher discharge rate and that poor mech box can't handle it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly how? The discharge rate is determined by the current consumption of the motor, which in turn is determined by the power of the spring. So, you could have a battery with the size and capacity of a car battery, but as long as the voltage was the same, there would only be one change, that you could run the gun all day or until it eventually wore out. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 A large cell has a higher discharge rate. Go to cheapbatterypacks.com they have a chart for every cell they sell. Look it up. Larger pack = more energy stored, more energy=higher discharge rate, higher discharge rate = moter spins faster, faster moter = higher rate of fire. Also, brand of cell makes a big difference too. If your theory was true why does a 8.4v 600mah sanyo not turn over my upgraded ca G36K but an IB 8.4v 3600 gives it a 14rps rate of fire? Link to post Share on other sites
Duff Beer Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Erm, just because the pack has a higher Mah, it will not discharge any differently to a pack with a smaller Mah. As far as batteries go I thought the rule was more voltage equals more shots per minute, more Mah equals more shots capable of being made. The motor will not turn any faster if you add more Mah, the only difference would be down to ambient temperature and the like. However, I have seen a G18CAEP have a higher rate of fire with a Pro light on it. Now surely this would just mean the Mah is upgraded and not the V, or is it down to the way the batteries are put together in the gun (series/parallel) that causes an increase in ROF? Any ideas as my Science Classes were a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 When you don't know what you're talking about - don't post. Did you look at the references cited by Rapier? Obviously not. It is correct that a larger capacity cell will discharge faster than a lower capacity one. However, this is not a hugely significant increase in rate of fire, as voltage has a much greater effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 On topic - any idea of who is retailing these, and a price? Sounds like something my MP7A1 needs. Link to post Share on other sites
Shard Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 They aren't iirc due for release in Japan til the 2nd of November, so I guess it will be a while til UK shops maybe get them in. Hopefully HK retailers won't be too slow to get them in stock though Link to post Share on other sites
Duff Beer Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 When you don't know what you're talking about - don't post. Did you look at the references cited by Rapier? Obviously not. It is correct that a larger capacity cell will discharge faster than a lower capacity one. However, this is not a hugely significant increase in rate of fire, as voltage has a much greater effect. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whoa, that was a little toasty! Any specific person that little bundle of joy was aimed at? Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Guess it was a little hot. No offense intended. Link to post Share on other sites
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