GlockworkOrange Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Hi there - not a very interesting idea here, but something I'd like to try in the future, if you think it'd work. Essentially I'm looking to create a GBB similar to the Para-Ordnance P10-45 - It's a Sub-Compact 1911 with a 10 round, double stack magazine. Here's a picture for reference - Looking at the slide, it looks much like a Detonics, but slightly shorter and without the rear slide cutout. My idea was to create a similar gun, a Sub-Compact, Hi-Capacity 1911 using a Detonics for the upper portion, and a WE Hi-Capa 3.8 for the lower. If the parts are compatible with some minor work, I should end up with something like this - Do you think there would be any major problems when assembling this? I'm aware I need to remove the metal insert from the Detonics slide to fit the Hi-Capa chassis, but would it be a drop on fit? I assume the plastic slide and TM hop parts would negate any negative aspects of the WE, and I would probably fit TM internals into the 3.8 for the best results. Do you think this would be worth trying? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 That a great idea. You should be able to pull this off quite easily with the parts your mentioned. However, you may want to consider a metal Detonics slide. Using the WE frame and doing what upgrades you can to it. I'm not sure about using all of the internals of the TM 4.3 as it was my understanding that the WE frame has some differences in design. However, I could be wrong. I recently did some work along this line when I wanted a full metal Commander style 1911. I bought a full metal WE 4.3 slide, replaced the barrel and guide rod group with that from a TM Desert Warrior, I then installed the frame internals (trigger, sear hamer and springs) of the TM into a KJW 1911A1 frame. It came out quite good and shoots like a dream. I'll be interested in seeing how your project turns out. Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think to begin with I'll stick to plastic, as I have lots of TM Detonics slides about, but I'll probably upgrade later. I think with the tiny slide and double stack mag, the gas efficiency will be great. I believe most TM Hi-Capa parts will fit the WE, but I'll just have to try and see. Thanks for the interest and help. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 WE 1911 sides work on the WE hicapa. Don't think the TM will as WE used Hicapa design for the 1911, TM did not. Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 WE 1911 sides work on the WE hicapa. Don't think the TM will as WE used Hicapa design for the 1911, TM did not. But, TM 1911 slides fit on Hi-Capas - you just have to remove a metal insert from the inside of it. Even if TM and WE slides are of different design, my understanding is that if a Hi-Capa slide will fit on it, be it WE or TM, then a 1911 slide will too. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 TM Hi-Capa parts will fit in a WE Hi-Capa but TM 1911 frame parts won't fit properly in a WE 1911. They cloned the Hi-Capa then to get a 1911 out before TM they modded it down from the Hi-Capa, but it is poop. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 TM Hi-Capa parts will fit in a WE Hi-Capa but TM 1911 frame parts won't fit properly in a WE 1911. They cloned the Hi-Capa then to get a 1911 out before TM they modded it down from the Hi-Capa, but it is poop. 'FireKnife' Yeah I know about the 1911 issues, but as far as I know the We Hi-Capa, being a close clone of the TM, will take TM 1911 and Hi-Capa slides fine. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 It should do, not sure if they bothered to change anything with the later models though but the old ones certianly do. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I might also try and find a TM Strike Warrior rear sight and slide (Elite SC sell the slides) for a more combat-esque look. The larger rear sight would also balance out the cut-out the Detonics has. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I know someone with a TM deutonics and a WE 3.8. I will ask him to check if they are compatible/what would be needed to make it so Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I really like this idea, I hope to see a nice finished version soon! Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 We tried last night to fit the slide onto a 3.8 hicapa and the guide rails are too long and too fat for the slide. Might be able to resize them but i am not sure how long they will last if you shaved them down enough to fit. Link to post Share on other sites
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